Search

Notices
Mesa Airlines Regional Airline

Mesa 3.0

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-13-2017, 11:59 AM
  #4271  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 107
Default

"taking delivery of the new Ejets"

Just curious, when I was there Mesa was talking first delivery April, then it was going to be 2 jets in May. Have any arrived?
WisJudge is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:10 PM
  #4272  
Living the Dream
 
deltajuliet's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,795
Default

Originally Posted by LAMAwannabe
doesn't matter if you accept them.
You don't think the court of pilot opinion matters when voting for a TA?

Originally Posted by WisJudge
"taking delivery of the new Ejets"

Just curious, when I was there Mesa was talking first delivery April, then it was going to be 2 jets in May. Have any arrived?
Best info I have says we took delivery of the first two at the end of May for entry into service at the end of summer, with the rest being delivered by the end of 2017.
deltajuliet is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:20 PM
  #4273  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 18
Default

Originally Posted by deltajuliet
You don't think the court of pilot opinion matters when voting for a TA?



Best info I have says we took delivery of the first two at the end of May for entry into service at the end of summer, with the rest being delivered by the end of 2017.
So tell me, how would you have handled the bonuses?
LAMAwannabe is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:37 PM
  #4274  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: Freight 75/76 FO
Posts: 140
Default

Originally Posted by WisJudge
"taking delivery of the new Ejets"

Just curious, when I was there Mesa was talking first delivery April, then it was going to be 2 jets in May. Have any arrived?
Yes. N89349 is en-route IAH-IAD as I write this, N86350 is in the hangar at IAH. The latter hasn't flown since it got there on Jun 2nd from FLL on it's delivery trip.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N89349

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N86350
Santos Dumont is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:39 PM
  #4275  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 145
Default

Originally Posted by LAMAwannabe
Try math for once...
22.19 x 1.62 = $35.95
$36 is TA FO first year.
Maybe sumtinwong with your head.
Maybe reading comprehension should be a concern of yours. I get the math, good job on that. The issue is that when you state the percentages, it doesn't show the big picture. SURE its a big jump "percentage" wise for Mesa, but even after that big jump, we still lag behind the remainder of the industry.

Do yourself a favor and stop spinning this to benefit your narrative. This new TA lags behind the other non-wholly owned carriers in pay. When you count in the other non-monetary benefits such as health insurance, training to different fleet types, etc. We are even FARTHER behind.

Obviously the percentage in growth in pay with this new contract amazes you... well not me.
Sumtinwong is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:48 PM
  #4276  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 18
Default

Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Maybe reading comprehension should be a concern of yours. I get the math, good job on that. The issue is that when you state the percentages, it doesn't show the big picture. SURE its a big jump "percentage" wise for Mesa, but even after that big jump, we still lag behind the remainder of the industry.

Do yourself a favor and stop spinning this to benefit your narrative. This new TA lags behind the other non-wholly owned carriers in pay. When you count in the other non-monetary benefits such as health insurance, training to different fleet types, etc. We are even FARTHER behind.

Obviously the percentage in growth in pay with this new contract amazes you... well not me.
"Maybe reading comprehension should be a concern of yours."

I am enrolled at community college for English 95. Someday I will speak English!
LAMAwannabe is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:49 PM
  #4277  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 145
Default

Originally Posted by LAMAwannabe
"Maybe reading comprehension should be a concern of yours."

I am enrolled at community college for English 95. Someday I will speak English!
Perhaps.
Sumtinwong is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:53 PM
  #4278  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: Freight 75/76 FO
Posts: 140
Default

Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Maybe reading comprehension should be a concern of yours. I get the math, good job on that. The issue is that when you state the percentages, it doesn't show the big picture. SURE its a big jump "percentage" wise for Mesa, but even after that big jump, we still lag behind the remainder of the industry.

Do yourself a favor and stop spinning this to benefit your narrative. This new TA lags behind the other non-wholly owned carriers in pay. When you count in the other non-monetary benefits such as health insurance, training to different fleet types, etc. We are even FARTHER behind.

Obviously the percentage in growth in pay with this new contract amazes you... well not me.
Not only in pay, but other areas as well. But let's be realistic here, expecting true industry average, or industry leading from Mesa would make you an irrational being, with all due respect sir. The same thing applies to anyone coming to Mesa expecting to make a decent living and insure an entire family at the same time. In this day an age there is plenty of information available to make people aware of what they are getting into.

Did you really think J.O. was going to make a 180 degree change and put us ahead of SkyWest and Republic just like that? Did you not have enough evidence to infer that no matter what the company and the union did we were going to still be far behind the rest of the industry?
Santos Dumont is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 12:59 PM
  #4279  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Out Of Trim's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 274
Default

Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Maybe reading comprehension should be a concern of yours. I get the math, good job on that. The issue is that when you state the percentages, it doesn't show the big picture. SURE its a big jump "percentage" wise for Mesa, but even after that big jump, we still lag behind the remainder of the industry.

Do yourself a favor and stop spinning this to benefit your narrative. This new TA lags behind the other non-wholly owned carriers in pay. When you count in the other non-monetary benefits such as health insurance, training to different fleet types, etc. We are even FARTHER behind.

Obviously the percentage in growth in pay with this new contract amazes you... well not me.
That's right. When you're making nothin a 60% raise still leaves ya with nothin.
Out Of Trim is offline  
Old 06-13-2017, 07:04 PM
  #4280  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 90
Default

No improvements to health insurance whatsoever, this desperately needed to change. From what I've seen and heard thus far I am not impressed.

I do have to wonder how we are getting a raise since we heard last time that Mesa has NO money and the last TA was the very best we could possibly get.
12fly is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nwa757
Regional
31
07-31-2018 04:58 PM
rabsing76
Mesa Airlines
232
10-20-2017 08:59 AM
winglet
Regional
45
12-18-2008 05:06 PM
CaribPilot
Regional
14
07-06-2008 06:37 PM
Squawk8800
Regional
5
04-08-2008 08:50 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices