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Old 06-01-2017, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FullThrust
Thanks for the info everyone! If only Mesa weren't so crappy... Living in PHX it would make sense to not have to commute, but the crazy expensive health insurance is just about a deal breaker
Rumor is Envoy may be opening at PHX base in the future.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WisJudge
What's the skinny today? So far 5% of Mesa flights cancelled; 25% delayed.
Flights don't seem to be wx related.
I think it was mostly weather related stuff around Dallas this morning.

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Rumor is Envoy may be opening at PHX base in the future.
I doubt it, they already have YV and SkyWest and block hours are down. Where'd you hear that?
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:26 PM
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What is an "agreement in principle" and what does that mean for the negotiations?
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:23 PM
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Maybe it's contingent on them getting more money from united and American
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Old 06-02-2017, 03:20 PM
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Agreement in principle means negotiations are done and an agreement has been reached.

Mec is presented with the details next.
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Old 06-02-2017, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
$500 at an 80-hour line is a $6.25/hour raise. That's nice and all but I don't like that JO just gives what he wants when he wants willy nilly. This should be in a contract, not just during peak times, and even for the people who run into commuting difficulties, sickness, or upgrade. A $6.25 raise is still well short of our peers as well...
Did I miss a company email? I didn't see anything recently about $500. Maybe it was just for certain bases or CA or FO only.
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Old 06-02-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flapoverspeed
Did I miss a company email? I didn't see anything recently about $500. Maybe it was just for certain bases or CA or FO only.
It was sent out May 30th by Cody Thomas, and it looks like all Mesa pilots were supposed to be recipients. $500 for perfect attendance is replacing 5 commuter hotels as of June.

I'm honestly surprised at this Agreement. Maybe the cancellations yesterday pushed our mainline partners over the edge in telling JO to fix his staffing? Maybe Air Whiskey's new contract is too lucrative and stealing the pool of applicants? Maybe he just finally got the negotiating team to agree to something really bad, again.

I guess we'll see.

What I do know is that anything less than industry standard, or anything involving funny money - stock - is a No Vote. I hope there's consensus there.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:14 PM
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Agreed - if I see the word "stock" anywhere in the new TA, that's an instant NO.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:37 PM
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Hope you guys don't get a good contract only to get fleeced in an impending bankruptcy. If JO knows he's going to go thru BK soon, what a time to give a market rate contract, then blame the pilot wages for causing the bankruptcy, and then demand concessions to emerge. Good luck. Hope it's a good contract and that isn't the case, but something smells fishy. You don't stagnate in negotiations after this many years and a horribly failed TA, have the NMB come in, then all of a sudden reach a TA in one or two sessions. Something seems off.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:39 AM
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Hope you guys don't get a good contract only to get fleeced in an impending bankruptcy. If JO knows he's going to go thru BK soon, what a time to give a market rate contract, then blame the pilot wages for causing the bankruptcy, and then demand concessions to emerge. Good luck. Hope it's a good contract and that isn't the case, but something smells fishy. You don't stagnate in negotiations after this many years and a horribly failed TA, have the NMB come in, then all of a sudden reach a TA in one or two sessions. Something seems off.
I hope it's acceptable, but I am a little suspicious too. Would not be surprised to see Chapter 11 or a merger/sale in our future. It will be interesting if JO settles with the F/A soon.

A new contract followed by bankruptcy is right out of Bryan Bedfords playbook at Republic.
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