Originally Posted by squawkoff

We just get further and further behind. Why is it they can fly FFDO contracts with the same carriers we do but pay soooo much better? And they have some kind of agreement with United to hire pilots.

APPLETON, Wis., May 5, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Air Wisconsin Airlines announced today significant enhancements to its existing bonus program, increasing the value of cash bonuses to $57,000, including $8,000 for pilots type rated in a turbine aircraft. When added to Air Wisconsin's competitive wage structure and best-in-class benefits, these increases position Air Wisconsin as the regional airline industry leader in new hire pilot compensation. During the first three years of employment, a new pilot will receive between $260,000 and $317,000 in total pay and elected benefits.

New hire pilots can expect to upgrade to Captain in 18 to 24 months-likely faster for pilots hired in the next several months-as Air Wisconsin dramatically expands its pilot group in connection with its recently announced long-term agreement with United Airlines.

In addition to industry-leading compensation and fast upgrades, Air Wisconsin pilots enjoy a structured, rapid career progression to United Airlines through the United Career Pathway Program.

According to Bob Frisch, Air Wisconsin's Chief Operating Officer, "Today's announcement highlights Air Wisconsin's commitment to attracting qualified pilots to its growing pilot group and creates best-in-class compensation to go along with the rapid upgrade opportunities created by our new partnership with United Airlines."

For more information about the new hire pilot bonus program and joining the Air Wisconsin team, please visit www.airwis.com/pilots .

Originally Posted by squawkoff

We just get further and further behind. Why is it they can fly FFDO contracts with the same carriers we do but pay soooo much better? And they have some kind of agreement with United to hire pilots.

Originally Posted by Sennant

Because Air Wisky is owned by an investor group who gets their money outside of aviation and "plays" in aviation with Air Wisky for the fun of it.

Originally Posted by squawkoff

Fair point. But what about Skywest, Republic, Expressjet? Are they in the same boat as Air Whiskey? Honestly don't know that's why I'm asking. Why is it the other non-wholly owned can pay their people much better? There's only two possibilities that I can think of. One, JO is biddding appropriately and pocketing the money (as mentioned earlier) or two, he's under bidding just to get the contracts to keep his airplanes flying hoping he can continue to get cheap labor. I think his luck is running out.

Originally Posted by deltajuliet

But what's the point of undercutting when mainline evenly distributes feed anyway?

Originally Posted by squawkoff

We just get further and further behind. Why is it they can fly FFDO contracts with the same carriers we do but pay soooo much better? And they have some kind of agreement with United to hire pilots.

APPLETON, Wis., May 5, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Air Wisconsin Airlines announced today significant enhancements to its existing bonus program, increasing the value of cash bonuses to $57,000, including $8,000 for pilots type rated in a turbine aircraft. When added to Air Wisconsin's competitive wage structure and best-in-class benefits, these increases position Air Wisconsin as the regional airline industry leader in new hire pilot compensation. During the first three years of employment, a new pilot will receive between $260,000 and $317,000 in total pay and elected benefits.

New hire pilots can expect to upgrade to Captain in 18 to 24 months-likely faster for pilots hired in the next several months-as Air Wisconsin dramatically expands its pilot group in connection with its recently announced long-term agreement with United Airlines.

In addition to industry-leading compensation and fast upgrades, Air Wisconsin pilots enjoy a structured, rapid career progression to United Airlines through the United Career Pathway Program.

According to Bob Frisch, Air Wisconsin's Chief Operating Officer, "Today's announcement highlights Air Wisconsin's commitment to attracting qualified pilots to its growing pilot group and creates best-in-class compensation to go along with the rapid upgrade opportunities created by our new partnership with United Airlines."

For more information about the new hire pilot bonus program and joining the Air Wisconsin team, please visit www.airwis.com/pilots .

Originally Posted by No Land 3

If I was still at Mesa, I'd say screw it and go over to Air Whisky and fly 200's. At some point you need to cut your losses.

Originally Posted by HandyUghes

Used to think we had a pretty good training department, but "good" requires upholding a certain standard. At this point, it seems like we're just brining on people who wouldn't have the ability to pass training elsewhere. Going to another regional doesn't seem like it'd be possible for a lot of these folks. Thinking of changing my resume title to Single Pilot Captain, Part 121.