Mesa 3.0
04-15-2017, 07:14 PM
#3622
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 167
Ever fly a Mesa CRJ that had a dirty sock smell? I did. Think it's just dirty pack filters? That's what I thought. Could be a health hazard, not just a nuisance smell. Write it up. And keep writing it up. The following is from our MEC at a different ALPA carrier:
The dangers of cockpit fumes has recently taken on a new level of seriousness as one of our pilots has been exposed to these dangerous fumes. In January, Captain Xxxxx Xxxxx was exposed to fumes while performing an engine run up at the request of maintenance. As a result of the fumes event, Xxxx has had numerous health problems, been out on medical leave for months, and may never return to the flight deck. We would ask that you keep Captain Xxxxx in your thoughts and prayers.
The "dirty sock" smell you may have experienced while operating an aircraft is not a normal condition that just requires a change of pack air conditioning filters. Despite what we may have believed to be a common and dismissible occurrence, this can actually indicate the presence of turbine oil fumes in the bleed system. Be aware of your flight environment and pay particular attention to fumes coming from the vents. Listen to the reports from your flight attendants, follow the latest airline operating procedures, and consider donning oxygen if you suspect bleed air contamination. The potential for pilots to breathe oil fumes on board containing various toxic chemicals, including tricresyl phosphates (TCPs) and carbon monoxide (CO), has been recognized as a crew health and flight safety hazard in military and commercial circles since the 1950s.
We received a recent report via the PDR system where a crew wrote up the aircraft for fumes (related to the dirty socks smell) and that aircraft was taken out of service. When you are asked to perform a maintenance related function, such as an engine run up, we would caution you to carefully review the aircraft logbook and understand exactly the parameters that are being tested and verified.
Your MEC and Central Air Safety committee have been working with management to reduce this hazardous risk to our health.
The dangers of cockpit fumes has recently taken on a new level of seriousness as one of our pilots has been exposed to these dangerous fumes. In January, Captain Xxxxx Xxxxx was exposed to fumes while performing an engine run up at the request of maintenance. As a result of the fumes event, Xxxx has had numerous health problems, been out on medical leave for months, and may never return to the flight deck. We would ask that you keep Captain Xxxxx in your thoughts and prayers.
The "dirty sock" smell you may have experienced while operating an aircraft is not a normal condition that just requires a change of pack air conditioning filters. Despite what we may have believed to be a common and dismissible occurrence, this can actually indicate the presence of turbine oil fumes in the bleed system. Be aware of your flight environment and pay particular attention to fumes coming from the vents. Listen to the reports from your flight attendants, follow the latest airline operating procedures, and consider donning oxygen if you suspect bleed air contamination. The potential for pilots to breathe oil fumes on board containing various toxic chemicals, including tricresyl phosphates (TCPs) and carbon monoxide (CO), has been recognized as a crew health and flight safety hazard in military and commercial circles since the 1950s.
We received a recent report via the PDR system where a crew wrote up the aircraft for fumes (related to the dirty socks smell) and that aircraft was taken out of service. When you are asked to perform a maintenance related function, such as an engine run up, we would caution you to carefully review the aircraft logbook and understand exactly the parameters that are being tested and verified.
Your MEC and Central Air Safety committee have been working with management to reduce this hazardous risk to our health.
04-15-2017, 07:40 PM
#3623
2 days off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Embraer Systems Analyst
Posts: 1,853
04-15-2017, 08:07 PM
#3625
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
64x 101 something + about 1000$ a month in tax free per diem. Home basing, top tier Blue Cross Blue Shield health insurance at 250$ month for family.
Pick up open time at 150% which is 150$ hr.
Been averaging 80 hours a month, works out around 96,000$ first year without picking up open time.
I can't fault you for not knowing any better, it's one of the jobs you don't know how good it is until you are doing it.
Pick up open time at 150% which is 150$ hr.
Been averaging 80 hours a month, works out around 96,000$ first year without picking up open time.
I can't fault you for not knowing any better, it's one of the jobs you don't know how good it is until you are doing it.
04-16-2017, 01:17 AM
#3626
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Minus four months for the time you spent transitioning/training, so less than you would have made with a line over the next year at Mesa. Then more your second year there, which prob evens out to almost the same total over two years, maybe with a little extra work at Mesa.
I am saving a ton of money on health insurance
04-16-2017, 05:23 AM
#3629
Living the Dream
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,795
Until we can stem new hires coming here (what are they thinking!?), we have little to no leverage. It'll take a horrible summer travel season of cancelled flights to get a contract, and even then there will probably be a 6-12 month lag time as management figures it'll only be necessary prior to the following Christmas or summer travel period. WisJudge pointed out that our cease and desist of new hire bonuses will probably get caught up in the slow moving, appeals-ridden bureaucratic court system and go nowhere fast. Our attrition is good but it's only slightly outpacing hiring, and in fact management just outhired us for March. Somehow. It'll take more people leaving, a lot more, for anything to get done in 2017. And I hate to say it but I feel like part of the problem in that respect.
In the meantime, I'm afraid the company might somehow actually scrape through this summer.
In the meantime, I'm afraid the company might somehow actually scrape through this summer.
Last edited by deltajuliet; 04-16-2017 at 05:35 AM.
04-16-2017, 06:51 AM
#3630
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Until we can stem new hires coming here (what are they thinking!?), we have little to no leverage. It'll take a horrible summer travel season of cancelled flights to get a contract, and even then there will probably be a 6-12 month lag time as management figures it'll only be necessary prior to the following Christmas or summer travel period. WisJudge pointed out that our cease and desist of new hire bonuses will probably get caught up in the slow moving, appeals-ridden bureaucratic court system and go nowhere fast. Our attrition is good but it's only slightly outpacing hiring, and in fact management just outhired us for March. Somehow. It'll take more people leaving, a lot more, for anything to get done in 2017. And I hate to say it but I feel like part of the problem in that respect.
In the meantime, I'm afraid the company might somehow actually scrape through this summer.
In the meantime, I'm afraid the company might somehow actually scrape through this summer.
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