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Old 04-06-2017, 05:36 AM
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Union reps aside, I wouldn't say all that...
So, you would say that even a person with below average intelligence can make it to the same point that we have? Not saying we're geniuses, but cmon man ...
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:24 AM
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So, you would say that even a person with below average intelligence can make it to the same point that we have? Not saying we're geniuses, but cmon man ...
You'll get it if you upgrade. How some people slip through the cracks boggles my mind.
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:39 AM
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You'll get it if you upgrade. How some people slip through the cracks boggles my mind.
I have to second this comment. I've ask this to myself on several occasions.
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Old 04-06-2017, 10:25 AM
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:43 AM
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I would have to say that since they're 121 pilots themselves, by definition, they must be fairly intelligent at the very least. Dummies don't make it to the controls of a large commercial airliner. So, give them that much credit. Now, if your problem is with their action level then perhaps you have a gripe based on past experiences. But, things seem to be changing in more recent months to the point where it has become obvious that they (at least several of them) have been genuinely and aggressively acting in our interests. Probably not AH, but several others who, yes, are smart individuals. Don't paint them all with such a broad brush and also give them credit when/where it's due. It is, after all, a voluntary job.








By the way :

I miss the sticker
"No dues for Hughes"

Saw that 14 years ago

You guys need such a sticker again
AH does a lot behind close doors that not even your MEC knows about it
Kevin W knows everything and every strategy thanks to "no dues for Hughes"

History repeats itself from your 2003 contract ( last pay raise by the way for Captains) in a front of your eyes

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Old 04-06-2017, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
By the way :

I miss the sticker
"No dues for Hughes"

Saw that 14 years ago

You guys need such a sticker again
AH does a lot behind close doors that not even your MEC knows about it
Kevin W knows everything and every strategy thanks to "no dues for Hughes"

History repeats itself from your 2003 contract ( last pay raise by the way for Captains) in a front of your eyes

Sad
I've heard many allusions to this without ever hearing anything specific. While there have been some juicy stories about other specific individuals and their specific roles in screwing the overall group, what exactly happened with AH in 2003?
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:06 PM
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I doubt the union will keep the membership informed of updates relative to the injunction request filed last month in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.

I've posted the latest filings here -> https://goo.gl/n8L6gn and you may view and download at your leisure. I'll keep the documents updated with the latest-and-greatest as my spare time permits. They dropped me to reserve this month, so I guess I'll have more spare time.

Of note, Mesa has filed a motion to dismiss, and the next hearing is scheduled for April 21. Don't be dismayed by Mesa's motion; it is normal legal wrangling by the lawyers. I note Mesa has one attorney filed as appearing before the court, ALPA has four.

The document titles are self-explanatory, at least for someone with an understanding of the legal system. You may want to take the time and read Mesa's response, and at least their Exhibit 1, in full.

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Old 04-06-2017, 01:17 PM
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Thanks for uploading, lots of information there. It notes that even ALPA representatives have participated in the referral bonuses. Huh. I think by and large we have good people working hard for us, but that's a little bit discouraging.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:21 PM
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[QUOTE=MrWizard;2337555] I note Mesa has one attorney filed as appearing before the court, ALPA has four.

My error, the jury will please disregard that singular 'number of attorneys' comment in its entirety. I can no longer edit/delete the original post.
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I've posted the latest filings here -> https://goo.gl/n8L6gn and you may view and download at your leisure. I'll keep the documents updated with the latest-and-greatest as my spare time permits.
Thanks for posting.

And so the long slog begins. Plan on a glacial pace as it always benefits one side to drag proceedings into eternity.

Also, regarding a previous post, please offer thoughtful comments. I know several people on the negotiating committee, they are anything but dumb. Thanks to them for a thankless job and their efforts on our behalf.

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