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Old 02-25-2017, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
There apparently are not current negotiations or are at a standstill. Also, beware of thinking the new hire bonus will be around in the near future. It is in violation of our current contract and we have a VERY good case to have it taken away. I fear some of the people who recently came here expecting to have that additional money until they upgrade are going to be very disappointed soon.
Mesa has been paying bonuses to new hires in violation of our contract for over a year. I don't expect that to change. Our union either doesn't want to stop the bonuses or has been unable to stop them.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:55 AM
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It's only going to get worse. I'm in the top third in base and I got nothing (conditions) that I bid for. Magpbs explained why. It's only going to get worse. There are 5 days in the month of March that are not in negative numbers on the FO side and three of those or zero. My 2 years is almost up. When I was hired the recruiter told me to come here for 2 years and then move on. That is what I'm attempting to do. I can't understand JO's mindset. It's like he's stuck in 2007. I'm tired of his whining about the 1500 hour rule in every communication to us. It's going to be interesting to see what he does when he he finds out he's going to have trouble staffing these new airplanes. He can't even staff what he has. I will fly extra for 300% and not a penny less and if they get horsey with me it goes to 400%. If they agree to pay you more make them follow up with an email or put VX3 or whatever you agree to in your Rainmaker account. What's the old saying? "Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." Be professional but be firm in your resolve.
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Old 02-25-2017, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by flapoverspeed
Mesa has been paying bonuses to new hires in violation of our contract for over a year. I don't expect that to change. Our union either doesn't want to stop the bonuses or has been unable to stop them.
They haven't tried. They just don't want to because it would hurt JO. Again company men in the union. Besides they let it go to long. It is no different then what happened with the harris award. It is "status quo" now. Even if the union decided to grieve it now it they will lose it in court because of this. You need to get union leaders that are pro pilots.
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Old 02-25-2017, 09:40 AM
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I don't understand why ALPA national doesn't have professional negotiators/attorneys available to us to handle these things. I guarantee the opposition (companies) do. We have line pilots going up against professional negotiators. I have always said and will continue to say that a union that represents main line pilots and regional pilots is a conflict of interest.
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:51 AM
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Found this story online from a few hours ago... fixed the link...

http://aviationtribune.com/airlines/...ional-airport/
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:58 AM
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Bad link.

Correct link: http://aviationtribune.com/airlines/...ional-airport/


Originally Posted by brigadeaviator
Found this story online from a few hours ago

http://http://aviationtribune.com/ai...ional-airport/
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Old 02-25-2017, 01:58 PM
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Anybody in IAH meet the new CP?
I did. I didn't get a real warm fuzzy.
Is it just me, or maybe I don't get the brits humor. Or lack thereof.
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Old 02-25-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
look at BB hiding his face. lol but ZG is gonna get scooped up by the majors now with that authoritative glare.
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Old 02-25-2017, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flapoverspeed
Mesa has been paying bonuses to new hires in violation of our contract for over a year. I don't expect that to change. Our union either doesn't want to stop the bonuses or has been unable to stop them.
There was some gray area. Prior to the current bonus the new hires were given money up until they finished IOE. Once out of training, they are an official employee and are operating under our current contract and rates. Now that the bonus is being given to am employee out of training, its a clear violation. You cant legally pay one pilot under the contract a different amount than a other pilot under the same contract.

All the union has to do is challenge it in court. Pressure you union reps to take it to a judge and ask them why they haven't already.
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Old 02-25-2017, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
Mesa ALPA has to picket to burn up the 2 million they were given. Do you think the public cares? Mesa is a private company! If they were public then picketing might get some public shareholders to worry. Mesa ALPA just has to show they are doing something with the money given to them from ALPA. If they really were serious however in getting a new contract they would file for mediation. That costs very little for the progress it would gain. Unfortunately for Andy, that would mean Mesa ALPA would have to come prepared to negotiate in mediation, no more stalling. I think ALPA national has no ideal that Andy is a company man. If you really care then either leave or raise hell to your union on filing for mediation. Forget picketing.
Oh and you have such a loud voice behind your keyboard and screen name. You can't do much through APC. You can't fight from the sidelines.
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