Mesa 3.0
02-20-2017, 10:19 AM
#2662
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
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Posts: 134
Dude just stop.
1. DFW is NOT closing.
2. I'm a Mesa guy and I can tell you every single one of the cities mentioned in the poll is a maintenance base for the respective aircraft. There are significant overnight aircraft in each of those cities and the company is looking at the INTEREST in having a secondary base outside of the hub.
THAT IS ALL IT IS.
Now, there are many many other reasons to cite as to why to come here or not come here. But at least stick to the facts and stop making crap up.
1. DFW is NOT closing.
2. I'm a Mesa guy and I can tell you every single one of the cities mentioned in the poll is a maintenance base for the respective aircraft. There are significant overnight aircraft in each of those cities and the company is looking at the INTEREST in having a secondary base outside of the hub.
THAT IS ALL IT IS.
Now, there are many many other reasons to cite as to why to come here or not come here. But at least stick to the facts and stop making crap up.
Next thing you'll tell everyone the compensation and treatment of crews is just fine.
Keep being one of the folks purpetuating the crap that place slings.
02-20-2017, 11:24 AM
#2663
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
If I can offer any advice, it is this. Mesa wants you to fly, to upgrade as soon as you can, get your 1,000 TPIC, and move on, so the next guy can upgrade. This has always been their business model. And you know what? That is exactly what you should all be doing. Don't waste effort on anything other than making yourself hireable at your next stop.
Go to job fairs, do interview prep, and don't burn any bridges.
It is a lost cause trying to change a system that doesn't want to change.
Go to job fairs, do interview prep, and don't burn any bridges.
It is a lost cause trying to change a system that doesn't want to change.
02-20-2017, 11:31 AM
#2664
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Behind your mom/wife/girlfriend
Posts: 134
If I can offer any advice, it is this. Mesa wants you to fly, to upgrade as soon as you can, get your 1,000 TPIC, and move on, so the next guy can upgrade. This has always been their business model. And you know what? That is exactly what you should all be doing. Don't waste effort on anything other than making yourself hireable at your next stop.
Go to job fairs, do interview prep, and don't burn any bridges.
It is a lost cause trying to change a system that doesn't want to change.
Go to job fairs, do interview prep, and don't burn any bridges.
It is a lost cause trying to change a system that doesn't want to change.
MagPBS you taking his advice?
02-20-2017, 12:37 PM
#2665
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 274
Sorry bud, but I have to agree with MagPBS. There's no shortage of facts that you can relay as to why somebody should give careful thought before coming here. But stick to the facts that are proveable and known. Don't go trying to make up your own. There has been no indication yet, whatsoever, that the DFW base is closing. Zero. To the contrary, consider how many fannies we're putting in seats out of DFW on a daily basis. Do you really think that Envoys capable to supplying that amount now or even anytime soon? Or any other regional for that matter? Hell, they're all tapped out just like we are. A lot of them are struggling with replacing their 50 seaters, much less taking on more flying.
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02-20-2017, 01:45 PM
#2666
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Sorry bud, but I have to agree with MagPBS. There's no shortage of facts that you can relay as to why somebody should give careful thought before coming here. But stick to the facts that are proveable and known. Don't go trying to make up your own. There has been no indication yet, whatsoever, that the DFW base is closing. Zero. To the contrary, consider how many fannies we're putting in seats out of DFW on a daily basis. Do you really think that Envoys capable to supplying that amount now or even anytime soon? Or any other regional for that matter? Hell, they're all tapped out just like we are. A lot of them are struggling with replacing their 50 seaters, much less taking on more flying.
What AA did to Mesa in CLT is provable and known and Mesa put a lot of fannies in seats out of CLT until that flying was handed over to PSA. Envoy is ramping up in DFW the writing is on the wall.
02-20-2017, 02:31 PM
#2667
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 688
Perhaps you're correct but I just see AA doing to Mesa exactly what they did in CLT this time in DFW with Envoy.
What AA did to Mesa in CLT is provable and known and Mesa put a lot of fannies in seats out of CLT until that flying was handed over to PSA. Envoy is ramping up in DFW the writing is on the wall.
What AA did to Mesa in CLT is provable and known and Mesa put a lot of fannies in seats out of CLT until that flying was handed over to PSA. Envoy is ramping up in DFW the writing is on the wall.
But I digress on the facts. Where or where do you say AA will be putting us when they "kick" us out of DFW? You seem to know so much. Please share. And don't say PHX, it's pretty obvious what AA things of PHX's future.
02-20-2017, 02:37 PM
#2668
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Posts: 699
AAG will dump Mesa as soon as they get the chance. Piedmont is growing. PSA is growing. Envoy is losing some airplanes, but will be taking more 175's as soon as they can staff them and take them from other carriers.
Mesa is a necessary evil and a liability, but will be kicked aside as soon as possible.
Mesa is a necessary evil and a liability, but will be kicked aside as soon as possible.
02-20-2017, 03:15 PM
#2669
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
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Posts: 134
AAG will dump Mesa as soon as they get the chance. Piedmont is growing. PSA is growing. Envoy is losing some airplanes, but will be taking more 175's as soon as they can staff them and take them from other carriers.
Mesa is a necessary evil and a liability, but will be kicked aside as soon as possible.
Mesa is a necessary evil and a liability, but will be kicked aside as soon as possible.
Sennass, I could give a **** where Mesa is going after they depart DFW just as anyone else should care about that dump. You're right however, the Mesa flying wasn't handed over as you say. It was taken from Mesa to be operated by PSA so you got me there big guy/girl.
AA knows Mesa is a sinking ship which is why flying is going to the WO ops and Skywest has a larger showing in PHX. At the end of the day it's about JO cashing in and retiring pretty off of the backs of hard working employees.
02-20-2017, 04:37 PM
#2670
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 688
Finally! A guy who sees the writing on the wall which history has proven! Don't let Sennass see this post or he/she will take the Mesa pom pom's out in an attempt to cheer for the lost cause. Did you have to pay for your pom pom's too?
Sennass, I could give a **** where Mesa is going after they depart DFW just as anyone else should care about that dump. You're right however, the Mesa flying wasn't handed over as you say. It was taken from Mesa to be operated by PSA so you got me there big guy/girl.
AA knows Mesa is a sinking ship which is why flying is going to the WO ops and Skywest has a larger showing in PHX. At the end of the day it's about JO cashing in and retiring pretty off of the backs of hard working employees.
Sennass, I could give a **** where Mesa is going after they depart DFW just as anyone else should care about that dump. You're right however, the Mesa flying wasn't handed over as you say. It was taken from Mesa to be operated by PSA so you got me there big guy/girl.
AA knows Mesa is a sinking ship which is why flying is going to the WO ops and Skywest has a larger showing in PHX. At the end of the day it's about JO cashing in and retiring pretty off of the backs of hard working employees.
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