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Old 02-11-2017, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Hasn't happened in 10 years, would you expect it to change for a particular reason?
No but there will be more upgrades. Did u see the email?---
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:57 AM
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I would consider upgrading on the 175 in IAH but am currently on the CRJ in DFW. I live in base. If I choose another base I then lose my parking pass at DFW and have to pay for parking, which I heard is north of $600/yr. I will not do that. If Mesa would give a parking pass at the base of your choosing, like I believe they do the flight attendants, I would consider it. The reason I would choose the 175 and commuting to IAH is because the schedules are much more efficient on the United side. I would have more time at home by commuting to IAH. So, for Mesa's short sidedness with parking passes, I am trying to move on and away for Mesa. That's not the only reason I'm trying to leave. Lack of pay and benefits are a HUGE Reason. And I WILL NOT sign a training contract. I'm sure JO thinks that by announcing these additional aircraft that pilots will flood Mesa's new hire class. I hope he's wrong but we shall see.
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
I would consider upgrading on the 175 in IAH but am currently on the CRJ in DFW. I live in base. If I choose another base I then lose my parking pass at DFW and have to pay for parking, which I heard is north of $600/yr. I will not do that. If Mesa would give a parking pass at the base of your choosing, like I believe they do the flight attendants, I would consider it. The reason I would choose the 175 and commuting to IAH is because the schedules are much more efficient on the United side. I would have more time at home by commuting to IAH. So, for Mesa's short sidedness with parking passes, I am trying to move on and away for Mesa. That's not the only reason I'm trying to leave. Lack of pay and benefits are a HUGE Reason. And I WILL NOT sign a training contract. I'm sure JO thinks that by announcing these additional aircraft that pilots will flood Mesa's new hire class. I hope he's wrong but we shall see.
There's enough fools out there that would pay JO to fly them 175's. And sadly some of them would be mainline pilots kids. That's how screwed up this profession is.
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
I would consider upgrading on the 175 in IAH but am currently on the CRJ in DFW. I live in base. If I choose another base I then lose my parking pass at DFW and have to pay for parking, which I heard is north of $600/yr. I will not do that. If Mesa would give a parking pass at the base of your choosing, like I believe they do the flight attendants, I would consider it. The reason I would choose the 175 and commuting to IAH is because the schedules are much more efficient on the United side. I would have more time at home by commuting to IAH. So, for Mesa's short sidedness with parking passes, I am trying to move on and away for Mesa. That's not the only reason I'm trying to leave. Lack of pay and benefits are a HUGE Reason. And I WILL NOT sign a training contract. I'm sure JO thinks that by announcing these additional aircraft that pilots will flood Mesa's new hire class. I hope he's wrong but we shall see.
6 years and 4 months of failed negotiating and not one Letter of Agreement to improve the QOL of the pilots. This is a failure on Mesa mgmt as much as it is a huge failure on our ALPA leadership. Mesa mgmt has improved pay in the way of bonuses albeit illegal because of section 6 for new hires. It still is sadly below industry average.
These are reasons enough to leave. If Mesa really cared about retaining pilots they would provide out of base parking compensation via a single Letter of Agreement. But, you'll hear our current ALPA leadership say that it would have to be negotiated in the next contact. So many excuses with no improvements.
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
6 years and 4 months of failed negotiating and not one Letter of Agreement to improve the QOL of the pilots. This is a failure on Mesa mgmt as much as it is a huge failure on our ALPA leadership. Mesa mgmt has improved pay in the way of bonuses albeit illegal because of section 6 for new hires. It still is sadly below industry average.
These are reasons enough to leave. If Mesa really cared about retaining pilots they would provide out of base parking compensation via a single Letter of Agreement. But, you'll hear our current ALPA leadership say that it would have to be negotiated in the next contact. So many excuses with no improvements.
Every Mesa pilot is to blame
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:42 AM
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I noticed you guys have only one CRJ200?
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
6 years and 4 months of failed negotiating and not one Letter of Agreement to improve the QOL of the pilots. This is a failure on Mesa mgmt as much as it is a huge failure on our ALPA leadership. Mesa mgmt has improved pay in the way of bonuses albeit illegal because of section 6 for new hires. It still is sadly below industry average.
These are reasons enough to leave. If Mesa really cared about retaining pilots they would provide out a of base parking compensation via a single Letter of Agreement. But, you'll hear our current ALPA leadership say that it would have to be negotiated in the next contact. So many excuses with no improvements.
That's the thing that really baffles me They spend so much time on new folks that they know nothing about. They don't know if they can pass training or IOE. In the mean time they turn a blind eye to those that are here, that have already proven themselves by passing training and IOE. Yet Mesa seems not to care at all about current employees. Do they not understand that it takes a 1000 hrs of 121 time to upgrade to captain? You would think that those of us who have our 1000 hours would be valuable to them but I guess not.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordon Axel
Are the IAH lines commutable from west coast? Days off? and I know "don't come here". Just checking in the event they decide to pay their pilots.
Mesa?? Pay their pilots industry average?? Keep dreamin' son
You'll be waiting a long time
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
I noticed you guys have only one CRJ200?
This allows Mesa to pay the pilots 50 seat pay for sick, reserve, and vacation time.
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Old 02-12-2017, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
This allows Mesa to pay the pilots 50 seat pay for sick, reserve, and vacation time.
Ornshtieen claims its for "nostalgic reasons". He says this BS and thinks people actually fall for it.
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