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Old 02-10-2017, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Because we are professionals. Our problem is our union and their deficient tactics.
Agreed.......picket, mediation, strike......that is all.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
you LITERALLY have to read his question again so realize you didn't answer it.
Easy there. My comment was more a remark about how often someone says not to go to mesa than it was a remark about him not having seen it. However I do see how it may have come off as rude. My apologies.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Voltron12
How many new hires are coming a month at the rate of 22 per hour? Is it safe to say most come based on the expectation that they will hopefully make more money?
Yes, I think it's safe to assume that many of them do come with that hope and expectation. A lot of them come for a desirable base, easy commute, etc., or any other reasons unrelated to pay. At the very least, they also have to be aware of the huge pay deficiency here. I suspect that when they raise that question to recruiters, they're being told that a new contract is being negotiated that is expected to soon result in a sizeable increase in FO pay. It would be very easy to believe that, given the huge disparity with all the other regionals. What they probably don't realize however, and certainly AREN'T told, is how Mesa management has a long history of avoiding a fair wage to its pilots and is still NOT engaged in a good-faith or truthful effort at a fair contract. While many of the other things they're told may be true, that one's the unavoidable big lie for recruiters.
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
Yes, I think it's safe to assume that many of them do come with that hope and expectation. A lot of them come for a desirable base, easy commute, etc., or any other reasons unrelated to pay. At the very least, they also have to be aware of the huge pay deficiency here. I suspect that when they raise that question to recruiters, they're being told that a new contract is being negotiated that is expected to soon result in a sizeable increase in FO pay. It would be very easy to believe that, given the huge disparity with all the other regionals. What they probably don't realize however, and certainly AREN'T told, is how Mesa management has a long history of avoiding a fair wage to its pilots and is still NOT engaged in a good-faith or truthful effort at a fair contract. While many of the other things they're told may be true, that one's the unavoidable big lie for recruiters.
These recruiters who lie for the company also forget to mention how the training department has gone to crap and examiners like TG are out to fail folks making it harder to leave. Just another way to keep pilots yet keep wages low. AI's errand boy RP still showing up to AQP to "grade" uniforms? What a joke!
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Old 02-10-2017, 05:09 PM
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These recruiters who lie for the company also forget to mention how the training department has gone to crap and examiners like TG are out to fail folks making it harder to leave. Just another way to keep pilots yet keep wages low. AI's errand boy RP still showing up to AQP to "grade" uniforms? What a joke!
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Old 02-10-2017, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Navmode
You can vote whenever you want but it doesn't mean you can strike whenever you want. It simply means the association decided to strike *when able*.
You told me when you left you wouldn't be thinking of this thread in your idol time (check your post history) but you're back!

I've missed you!
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
Because we are professionals. Our problem is our union and their deficient tactics.
Oh please, professionals in any field don't earn $20k per year. Anyone who says otherwise have never made any real money. Airlines use the same psychology as fast food companies and every other employer of low wage earners. Companies like McDonald's promote people to 'managers' and 'supervisors' and pay them a nickel more per hour. Regionals are no different except that instead of that nickel they stroke the pilot's ego by telling them how great they are and that they are the best of the best, the most professional and exactly like their 6 figure mainline counterparts etc.

Except that they are not, they are the smegma, the fromunda cheese found under managements sack. They are equivalent to ball-less bus drivers flying a multi million dollar jet wearing a 3 day old ketchup stained, wrinkled shirt. You guys gotta step up and find those lost balls and start acting like your balls are so big you can barely walk straight. This is a pilots market. And that's not just for Mesa pilots but all regional pilots.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MesaMentor
You told me when you left you wouldn't be thinking of this thread in your idol time (check your post history) but you're back!

I've missed you!
You got me. I heard about the troll and had to keep reading. I'm not however preaching to everyone, so I guess that's the difference.
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:13 PM
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You got me. I heard about the troll and had to keep reading. I'm not however preaching to everyone, so I guess that's the difference.
Preaching? You're cute. I'm basically saying the same things you are just in a more entertaining fashion.

How's your clash of clans doing? You were so passionate about it in the crew room.
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Old 02-11-2017, 07:39 AM
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Question?...What are the chances that Mesa covers the Expressjet flying for United using the 700's and the new 175's.
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