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Old 02-06-2017, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
You make CA pay in that seat?
Yep!........
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Q400winner
Exactly, company says "well you're making Captain pay, what's there to complain about?"

Well if we knew that was the deal we would've went to a better company to make that money and have some quality of life bidding as an FO. Mesa has no plan, and I'm about to throw in the towel.
Actually, at this point, most other regionals pay a First Year FO, what you'll make when you upgrade to Capt at Mesa.

And the new Captains, as stated above, aren't logging much PIC time.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:25 PM
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Very true. A 4-year CA at Mesa makes about what a new hire FO at several other regionals makes.


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Actually, at this point, most other regionals pay a First Year FO, what you'll make when you upgrade to Capt at Mesa.

And the new Captains, as stated above, aren't logging much PIC time.
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Very true. A 4-year CA at Mesa makes about what a new hire FO at several other regionals makes.
Agreed! And PIC isn't quite as important as it used to be to many carriers. Not saying its NOT important...just saying that it doesn't have the "make or break" factor that it used to. In my opinion, someone looking for a flying job should make QOL and compensation their top priority. Bases, upgrade times, flows, etc...are all subject to change.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:14 AM
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I'm glad the flight attendants are finally getting to a strike vote. While the gesture is more symbolic than anything, I'd imagine it would cause mainline to think twice about future contracts until labor issues get settled. Why don't the pilots follow it up with a vote of our own to turn up the heat?
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
I'm glad the flight attendants are finally getting to a strike vote. While the gesture is more symbolic than anything, I'd imagine it would cause mainline to think twice about future contracts until labor issues get settled. Why don't the pilots follow it up with a vote of our own to turn up the heat?
Good question.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
I'm glad the flight attendants are finally getting to a strike vote. While the gesture is more symbolic than anything, I'd imagine it would cause mainline to think twice about future contracts until labor issues get settled. Why don't the pilots follow it up with a vote of our own to turn up the heat?
Because you can't just up and have a strike vote. Read the railway labor act.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:26 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can vote any time you want. It just doesn't mean anything legally until you've gone to mediation, reached an impasse, and waited 30 days.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can vote any time you want. It just doesn't mean anything legally until you've gone to mediation, reached an impasse, and waited 30 days.
That's what I thought. It's a symbolic gesture to demonstrate resolve to the company.
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can vote any time you want. It just doesn't mean anything legally until you've gone to mediation, reached an impasse, and waited 30 days.
You can vote whenever you want but it doesn't mean you can strike whenever you want. It simply means the association decided to strike *when able*.
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