Mesa 3.0
12-20-2016, 05:54 AM
#1931
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 688
You left when the company was $h!t but it's gotten even worse. When I left what you post twas the same situation for me. However, recent departed employees atest to otherwise. You left for Skywest over a year ago now....times are different. Don't defend the actions of today's Mesa with your past experience.
12-20-2016, 08:52 AM
#1932
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 62
When fast upgrades were a thing here, regionals hadn't yet started offering bonuses/raises and someone in every thread thought their regional was the "last choice", what exactly did the rest of you know that I missed 'oh insightful one'? Go make a spreadsheet with pay rates from three or four years ago, factor in a quick upgrade at Mesa and see what the five-year pay difference is between the different choices. Hope you're just trolling because only an irrational idiot would think they just "knew" how things would play out, especially for new entrants to the industry.
12-20-2016, 08:55 AM
#1933
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Behind your mom/wife/girlfriend
Posts: 134
Proof? Just a handful (3) of guys I know who've left in the last 90 days and it's happened to.
12-20-2016, 06:30 PM
#1934
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,623
When fast upgrades were a thing here, regionals hadn't yet started offering bonuses/raises and someone in every thread thought their regional was the "last choice", what exactly did the rest of you know that I missed 'oh insightful one'? Go make a spreadsheet with pay rates from three or four years ago, factor in a quick upgrade at Mesa and see what the five-year pay difference is between the different choices. Hope you're just trolling because only an irrational idiot would think they just "knew" how things would play out, especially for new entrants to the industry.
12-20-2016, 06:55 PM
#1935
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 274
Yes, it has been part of the problem. But, FINALLY a strong effort is being made to do something about that. Our position is that we will not allow for anything other than industry-competitive wages. NOTHING, including flowery talk about expansion a/o fast upgrades will be allowed to substitute for that. It would be really great if the non-Mesa folks would give up the bashing and ridicule and just support us in these efforts. The way this industry changes so fast it could easily be your pilot group under duress soon. If that were to happen, we would surely do the same for you.
12-20-2016, 06:56 PM
#1936
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 634
And stop saying the pay was close. It wasn't. Year 2 at Skywest was what, 38-40$? Mesa's second year is still $29.
12-20-2016, 06:56 PM
#1937
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
12-20-2016, 07:05 PM
#1938
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,623
Do you really want me to go back and quote every person who has used this as their excuse for coming to Mesa over the years? Mesa's reputation has been the same since before I started to research the industry in 2009. Sounds like it has been the same since significantly before that. I hope you guys get things turned around. If history proves itself, that will likely not happen.
12-20-2016, 08:30 PM
#1939
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 667
Yes, it has been part of the problem. But, FINALLY a strong effort is being made to do something about that. Our position is that we will not allow for anything other than industry-competitive wages. NOTHING, including flowery talk about expansion a/o fast upgrades will be allowed to substitute for that. It would be really great if the non-Mesa folks would give up the bashing and ridicule and just support us in these efforts. The way this industry changes so fast it could easily be your pilot group under duress soon. If that were to happen, we would surely do the same for you.
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