deltajuliet

While more pilots would help mitigate unstacking, it would still happen if every single pilot bid for Thanksgiving Day off and that's when most flying needs to be done. As for PBS, our union guy who's good enough to come on here, explain things, and answer questions also helps with creating schedules on PBS. It's not the company doing it unilaterally. On top of that, our union is also involved in the creation of trips before we bid on them. It's true we could create 4 day trips worth 24 hours, but you would get some worth 15 hours along with some awful 2 and 3 day trips. The reverse is true as well, and our people try to find a happy medium with the company, or at least as happy as possible considering what our mainline overlords give us.

Happyflyer

I used to think this. Mainline leverage is the stock price. Wall Street hates unknowns. Pilot cost is the largest labor group cost, and labor is the largest cost.
Their leverage is obtained because the company is making money, and can afford a new contract. The stock price can be hurt more by lagging ongoing negotiations than by an expensive agreement.
Wall street hates unknowns, and an unknown labor cost has to be assumed at a worse case, or they move on to a different stock in that industry that has known cost and revenue.

Mesa has flying because it's cheap, if it wasn't cheap they wouldn't have it. If you want to make more find a job that pays more.
You went to a place that pays less, and finds you work because you make less. The MEC may be doing all they can. Why doesn't the CEO of Spirit airlines just raise all his ticket prices to match Delta?
Bottom line is, you didn't go to Mesa for the pay; so why did you go there, and are you still getting what you went there for.

wt932051

You are the clueless one. You think the company unstacks PBS because they are staffed? You think PBS honors the pilots awards first then honors what the company wants when it unstacks? I suggest you take some computer classes. Computers run based on pure logic. I was at Mesa and had that PBS system down better then most of those idiot PBS trainers in the crew rooms. I used Denial mode at times to my advantage and it worked wonderfully, yet all the PBS trainers were so clueless on how to really work the system and when I tried explaining it to one, I got a blank look. Sure they knew the basics but if you are really good at what you do you would be amazed what Navtech can do. Amazing how the people running PBS still do not know how it works...lol

Unstacked=Understaffed. Period. PBS honors the companies preferences first, then the pilots. IN THAT ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, I SUGGEST YOU RE-EXAM THE AWARDS UNTIL YOU FIGURE IT OUT. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE THE MOST CLUELESS PBS TRAINER THERE IS... LMAO.

wt932051

They have a TA. With Delta's TA now Southwest wants more so we will see. These were not due to a pilot shortage was my point.

wt932051

Simply by not staffing the airline properly. If Mesa was not allowed to Unstack, they would have a bunch of uncovered open time to JRA. At least that way with them running the airline short staffed they would be paying extra for that same flying that PBS now Unstacks for straight time during the award.

wt932051

The MEC is NOT doing all they can. If they were they would be in mediation already.

I agree with you to a point about the stock price and new contracts. However with Spirit, Frontier, and some Cargo companies that refuse to raise pay, they go through the process of mediation, then strike to get what they want. Mesa's MEC can do the same thing. Mesa pilots are paid well below industry average so you have plenty of room to ask for more then just the 3 percent raise, 5 year contract that was shot down earlier. There is a balance and Mesa's MEC is doing a poor job.

wt932051

Sorry, you are incorrect with the unstacking due to everyone bidding for Thanksgiving off while being staffed. It would not unstack if Mesa was staffed. It would use denial mode as it ran the bids of the more junior who also wanted it but at that point was unavailable.

Again. Unstacking is Understaffed. That is the companies doing.

Denial mode means you do not have enough seniority to hold it. (In so many words)

It sounds like you already are willing to follow your trainer off the cliff so I doubt you will listen to me.

Sure it is great MAGPBS is trying to help but if he doesn't get it then I can't help you. As my other posts indicate in response to him, I don't think he knows what he is talking about. Each to himself.

MagPBS

You obviously don't work here and have no clue who I am. Because anyone here will tell you how much of an idiot you are and that there is no one who knows the navtech pbs product like I do.

MagPBS

For the love of God. Learn how pbs works. Denial mode only comes into play if you don't make the credit window. It does nothing for making sure trips are covered.

Happyflyer

You might be right, but that is where Union demographics come into play. Their topped out captains are making $100 an hour which is reasonable for an RJ driver. Only certain groups at MESA are below their respective industry par.
If a guy has 15 years there he's not as fired up as you for 2 reasons.
1) He's likely tried to go somewhere else and didn't.
2) He wouldn't see the same percentage gains that the newer guys would with any new deal. He has his job and scale because the newbie signs up for $22 bucks an hour.
You're frustration lies with how obvious it has become that pilots eat their young.