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Old 10-01-2016, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
Where did you count the votes? I know several Mesa pilots and this is the first they heard of it when I asked. Better spread the word...

As illegal as it would be for the union to do this, it is what is needed to force your MEC to take some action and also helps let the investors know there is labor unrest.
It has nothing to do with the union, perhaps someone will "invite" you.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:01 AM
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Where did you count the votes? I know several Mesa pilots and this is the first they heard of it when I asked. Better spread the word...

As illegal as it would be for the union to do this, it is what is needed to force your MEC to take some action and also helps let the investors know there is labor unrest.
The vote (and the voting mechanism) is mentioned in post #967, back on 9/27.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:02 AM
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Would it be crazy for a captain without 1,000 hours Part 121 PIC to leave for another regional? A step up would be preferable, of course, but without a better offer, a regional is the only choice right now. Envoy or SkyWest seem like ok places to sit tight for a while. Mainline doesn't seem to hire Mesa pilots, and with the negativity, weak FOs, Jonathan, shady union, etc., I kind of just want out.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:12 AM
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Would it be crazy for a captain without 1,000 hours Part 121 PIC to leave for another regional? A step up would be preferable, of course, but without a better offer, a regional is the only choice right now. Envoy or SkyWest seem like ok places to sit tight for a while. Mainline doesn't seem to hire Mesa pilots, and with the negativity, weak FOs, Jonathan, shady union, etc., I kind of just want out.
Wouldn't be crazy at all. You could continue to try and move up just as easily from Envoy or Skywest but have a much higher QOL in the mean time. Plus with Envoy you are already hired at AA and if that's your goal you just sit tight and wait for your turn to go. It'll be your last interview of your career.

Each day you wait to make a move is more and more seniority wasted.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nu11us
Would it be crazy for a captain without 1,000 hours Part 121 PIC to leave for another regional? A step up would be preferable, of course, but without a better offer, a regional is the only choice right now. Envoy or SkyWest seem like ok places to sit tight for a while. Mainline doesn't seem to hire Mesa pilots, and with the negativity, weak FOs, Jonathan, shady union, etc., I kind of just want out.
Not surprising but a lot of us feel the same way. When I attend job fairs I see 30 or more Mesa CA's who are just like you. We are desperate for jobs at Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, corporate, and cargo jobs.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:17 AM
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I would think you could easily get an interview with Allegiant/Spirit/Frontier/Atlas with 1000 TPIC. To each their own, but as bad as our labor negotiations are going it's really not worth starting over as an Envoy FO when you're a making Captain pay with decent seniority. At least stick around til an LCC calls. YMMV.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nu11us
Would it be crazy for a captain without 1,000 hours Part 121 PIC to leave for another regional? A step up would be preferable, of course, but without a better offer, a regional is the only choice right now. Envoy or SkyWest seem like ok places to sit tight for a while. Mainline doesn't seem to hire Mesa pilots, and with the negativity, weak FOs, Jonathan, shady union, etc., I kind of just want out.
Mainline is interviewing and hiring our pilots. The ones not getting hired are probably the ones who didn't pony up for interview prep and pay for a service to go over the application.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:27 AM
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Mainline is interviewing and hiring our pilots. The ones not getting hired are probably the ones who didn't pony up for interview prep and pay for a service to go over the application.


Good to know. Yeah, I'm a multi career fair attendee so maybe it'll happen.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
I would think you could easily get an interview with Allegiant/Spirit/Frontier/Atlas with 1000 TPIC. To each their own, but as bad as our labor negotiations are going it's really not worth starting over as an Envoy FO when you're a making Captain pay with decent seniority. At least stick around til an LCC calls. YMMV.

Chasing all those places. At just over 3,000 hours, I think my total time is low-ish, but yeah, might be better to endure and wait for the LCC call.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWizard
The vote (and the voting mechanism) is mentioned in post #967, back on 9/27.
Wow, some of you need to google "illegal work action" and the consequences that come with it. Also, airline management has, in the past, subpoenaed this website to release personal information to sue people individually. I think it was United, and you should all look into what it cost those individuals they persecuted.
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