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08-21-2015, 09:17 PM

#751

iFlyRC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

Y'all ain't getting any more than this TA pass or not. That's what happens when you work for the cheapest bidder. Enjoy.

Thats all very well, when our new hire classes are not getting filled, and our flights start to get cancelled due to lack of pilots, JO will put more on the table

08-21-2015, 09:30 PM

#752

deltajuliet

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Anyway, why are you criticizing our pilot group for trying to raise the bar?

08-21-2015, 09:43 PM

#753

Navmode

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

They Mesa'ed Mesa. ELOHEL. How you like dem apples?

So if Mesa bids low for flying it's "scraping the bottom", but if Skywest does it, then "JOKE's ON YOU ELOHEL".

08-21-2015, 10:00 PM

#754

brigadeaviator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dfwflyboy

Has anyone at mesa heard about a fist fight between 2 Mesa Captains in DFW at gate B46? supposedly, Mesa lost a contract with AA starting in Sep. bunch of 900 flying up for grabs.

Last week or so an envoy CA started flying off the handle at a friend of mine on the ramp saying how we were unsafe, blah, blah, (cry me a river). Envoy FO was probably also in disbelief.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iFlyRC

Playing devils advocate here... What if RAH wanted to go bankrupt? As others have eluded to, this whole thing parallels Pinnacle. Rah even hired the same firm that engineered Pinnacles demise. Just saying... Give the pilots what they want, go into bankruptcy, shed all the unprofitable stuff, reset the pay, downsize to manageable size.

I wouldn't be surprised if JO is trying to position and buy Republic after they go south and double the fleet size.

I'm on probation and can't vote but this TA does affect me. I just can't understand how there's "no money left" yet competitors working around the same "thin margins" can pay their crews so much more than our operation and yet we still have the cash to buy all those new from the factory CRJs. There's still so much that can be done that wouldn't cost the company money like more efficient crew scheduling and available open time.

08-21-2015, 10:09 PM

#755

iFlyRC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

LOL bruh, logging dat sweet sweet PIC and didn't even have to sell my soul to get it. Better catch up son. Remember, I'll let you buy the beer while I talk about how much money I make. No phone interview at the big dogs. Better study up son.

When your both at a mainline, and in the same cockpit, neither one of you are going to give a rats ass about which regional you came from.

08-21-2015, 10:45 PM

#756

tinman1

sippin' dat koolaid

Joined APC: Jun 2013

Position: gear slinger

Posts: 982

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

LOL bruh, logging dat sweet sweet PIC and didn't even have to sell my soul to get it.

No, but it's glaringly obvious that you've sold your soul to APC with the amount of vitriol and tasteless banter you post on here. You of all people hold zero weight when it comes to lecturing other pilots about getting hired at the majors. Nobody is going to care that you did your time in the Mormon Air Force anyway

08-21-2015, 11:27 PM

#757

Blackwing

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeatNavy

I've been looking but can't find one yes voter. In real life or the internets.

I've met one. One.

Most captains I've talked to seem to think all the new guys will be yes votes. I think many of the new guys will be leaving soon.

08-21-2015, 11:38 PM

#758

flapshalfspeed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwing

I've met one. One.

Most captains I've talked to seem to think all the new guys will be yes votes. I think many of the new guys will be leaving soon.

Anecdotally, 80+% of the FOs I have flown with recently will be gone by this time next year if:

1) We don't have more airplanes announced very soon

and/or

2) We don't achieve Republic/Compass FO payrates

It's simply econ 101--if the expectation of upgrade in the near future (i.e. Captain pay) declines, their decision focuses in on FO payrates. It's kind of an obvious A vs. B decision for FOs.

08-22-2015, 01:08 AM

#759

NVUS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brigadeaviator

I wouldn't be surprised if JO is trying to position and buy Republic after they go south and double the fleet size.

Who has more money to play with? JO or JA?

08-22-2015, 05:09 AM

#760

iFlyRC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

Compass is starting to suck up our new FO's. I know of two who left already, another that got the phone call, another one who decided to apply, and another FO who has already accepted a corporate job. This is only the start...