Originally Posted by iFlyRC

We need to start discussion how we are going to clean house of the MEC, removing everyone. No more 92 hour guarantees for them!

Originally Posted by 121again

Personally I will be better off if this TA fails so if you guys want to burn it down I'll be the first one to bring the matches. I was just trying to give it a fair trial before we sent it off to the firing squad.

Originally Posted by prior121

You understand voting "No" won't burn anything down right? We aren't having staffing problems as other Regionals like Republic are....

Originally Posted by logic1

This will be your contract for the next ten years. Just think about that.

Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Who the helll plans on being at a regional for 10 years. Not very good thinking.

Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Who the helll plans on being at a regional for 10 years. Not very good thinking.

Originally Posted by Pullout

We're already getting more Ejets (3-4 for sure this year) so I hope the new hires that are able to vote don't help solidify a crappy contract with the selfish thought that it will guarantee us more planes so they can 'upgrade, do their time and move on.' Ask thousands of regional Captains out there how that's worked out thus far.

If we as a pilot group vote in this bottom feeding contract, it will stick with every Mesa pilot throughout our career. When we sit across the interview board of a legacy, will you be able to justify how you voted? Think GoJet 1.0. Or the original Freedom. (No, it's not as bad as alter ego airlines, but we are being asked to take a subpar contract in a time when demand is starting to outpace supply) We will be stuck with the stigma of keeping the industry at crappy levels for at least the next five years out of pure selfishness.

Here is one more thing that should have been discussed by now. The company has shown ALPA their costs. Great. Our profits are razor thin just like other regionals. Understood. What also needs to be understood is that Skywest has near the same margin, but is able to pay their pilots around $10/hour greater (at my specific type/seat/year). They can do this because their leadership actually has someone that can negotiate a contract with legacies that can make a small profit while also supporting decent wages for their pilots. We do not have leadership that can do that. Any schmuck could have gone to AA or UA and said, "If you give us more flying we will do the flying cheaper than anyone else.....because we refuse to pay our people a decent wage."

Do you think our upper management wasn't counting on maintaining status quo crappy treatment of our pilot group into 2020 when they made all those great 'long term' flying contracts? Why didn't they make those contracts a little more profitable so they could actually give us a raise....or even just keep us equal with inflation.

Lets ditch the Stockholm syndrome. Lets vote this down, show management we're done being treated this poorly. This TA is an insult. Even more important, lets show the board they have an inept leader at the helm that can only negotiate business if the employees stay complacent to poor treatment. [Insert Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It]

Originally Posted by Q400winner

Thank god someone understands this industry. All these new inexperienced 175 captains are entirely unaware.