Sennant

To get the most up to date one with settlements it's at magpilots.alpa.org or email you council

iFlyRC

Well, thats even worse!

bnkangle

Was this the same lawyer that told you right to work means you don't have to adhere to a training contract?

Do you really think you're smarter than Mesa? Do you think you might be burning a bridge by breaking the contract, regardless?

As I said, if the balance isn't too significant, its just easier to write off the loss. It doesn't make sense to spend 5 grand to collect 4 grand. Plus, even if the company gets a judgement, it's only that. They may never actually collect, but they can deduct the debt from their taxes and you'll be receiving a 1099-C because a cancelled debt is imputed income(i.e. you got a free type rating).

That being said, my opinion is that a training contract is merely a way to deter people from bailing before a company gets a return on their investment, but it is absolutely enforceable.

Duct Mon

Are you a lawyer? Do you know anything about labor or contract law? If you aren't a lawyer then don't know what you're talking about. Have you yourself tried to get out of a training contract? I'm sure it's no to that question also.
My advice to anyone asking about the training contract is to advise an attorney. Please don't get your information from this forum about a training contract.

brigadeaviator

"With that being said..." Seems like a common phrase I've been hearing a lot recently. So it sounds like PHX had an interesting day... http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/140375203-story

Out Of Trim

Or, how about simply going into it with the personal integrity of resolving yourself to the fact that, should you break the agreement, you will simply adhere to it because that's the right thing to do? Let's face it ... not everyone can pass this training. So, Mesa doesn't fault nor punish them for falling short. A case can even be made that Mesa could still be fair in requiring them to repay training costs in the event of failure ... but, they don't. IMO only an idiot would try to argue that it's unfair of them to demand recovering training costs from people who simply bail right away for reasons other than aggregious and discriminitory treatment by the company. So, with that in mind, who CARES about what you might get away with because, unless you're a db with no personal integrity or self-respect you wouldn't even contemplate whelching on the deals you make and a handshake from you doesn't mean $#!+. All these questions from people about whether, or not, the company could actually enforce a contract that THEY would sign into is pretty disturbing and shows the true makeup of a lot of folks in the new-hire pool. YES, they require a contract. YES, you should be expected to adhere to it. WHO CARES if they'd actually pursue it if you break it? If you would, then go somewhere else instead ... we don't want you. Most line pilots don't enjoy spending 3 or 4 days with a gutless wonder.

Santos Dumont

A piece of personal advise regarding the training contract. If a company has a training contract, it is usually an indication that it has problems retaining pilots, so asks your self why pilots are fleeing said company in such a way that a training contract is needed.

The road to make it to the professional aviation world is difficult and full of bumps, so when we finally make it we might feel pressured to go with the first company that calls. And that might mean going with a company that you don't really want to work for, and enforces a training contract. This might not make sense for a young pilot that has been waiting years to get out of the flight instructing world, but my advise is to be patient and wait a little longer to see if you can get on with a company that you wouldn't mind putting up with for the duration of the training contract (if they have one).

If you end up with a training contract in front of you on your first day of training don't just sing it. You have to ask your self if you are willing to fulfill the contract. There are two ways to do that. Either you stay with the company for the duration of the contract. Or if you leave, you pay them the pro-rated amount of the cost of the Type Rating they gave you. If you don't think you can do that, you should not sign.

If you cannot afford to be unemployed any longer, and your dream regional simply doesn't want to call you for an interview, just sign the contract and mentally prepare to put up with the company for the duration of the contract. 1 or 2 years is really not that long.

Also, in the particular case of Mesa, you have to remember that you can go to almost any other regional, pay Mesa the training contract, and still make more money than what you would have if you had stayed... Like most have said, chances really are they won't even enforce it. But you should always assume that they will, because they can.

Cloudsurfer83

Training Contract at Mesa...

What training Contract? I would come and not even worry about it...

I said too much already...

85guy

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DENpilot

Mesa does pursue the training contract, FYI. They also have a very high success rate at winning the litigation.