New Mesa Thread
03-24-2016, 12:17 PM
#5341
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: CRJ CA
Posts: 180
Best part: " She faces extradition to Mexico"
Do they let non-US-citizen FAs/pilots like her utilize KCM to access "secure" airports/airliners? If so I'm terrified of the consequences of that gross oversight of security.
For pilots, KCM makes sense--the most dangerous weapons we have are our hands and feet, so who really cares what's in our bags/pockets...but FAs? Like the one in the article? Should we really be letting them through KCM with ZERO bag check/metal detector?
We really, really have a gaping hole in our security infrastructure by allowing FAs to go through KCM--to the extent I wonder why we even bother with screening anyone at all
Do they let non-US-citizen FAs/pilots like her utilize KCM to access "secure" airports/airliners? If so I'm terrified of the consequences of that gross oversight of security.
For pilots, KCM makes sense--the most dangerous weapons we have are our hands and feet, so who really cares what's in our bags/pockets...but FAs? Like the one in the article? Should we really be letting them through KCM with ZERO bag check/metal detector?
We really, really have a gaping hole in our security infrastructure by allowing FAs to go through KCM--to the extent I wonder why we even bother with screening anyone at all
03-26-2016, 08:11 PM
#5345
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 73
Hey what's the drop dead date? The date that draws the line of "last quick upgrade" shot at Mesa at least for Ejet because we all know that's what they want.
I know a lot of people will chime in and say "Mesa's Inception" date but hey jokes aside I need a "range of dates."
People keep saying the quick upgrade ship has sailed but when did it sail for the Ejet?
30+18 Ejets = 48
36 Ejets Currently on property
48 x 6 Crew/Ejet = 576 Total Crew Rqrd for EJets (this is a very generous Mesa staffing estimate.)
213 Current Captains Awarded Ejet and total required 288+20 Extras (TrngDept/Office)
3/mo. Max Attrition Ejet Captains
Seniority #768 most Junior Ejet Captain Award (DOH 10/16/2014) with prior 121 Experience. The latest award however went senior to him due to pilots deciding late on upgrade or pilots hitting the requirements for upgrade.
Seniority #1250 Most Junior Pilot on Master Roster (CRJ&Ejet)
Please feel free to correct any errors I may have made.
I know a lot of people will chime in and say "Mesa's Inception" date but hey jokes aside I need a "range of dates."
People keep saying the quick upgrade ship has sailed but when did it sail for the Ejet?
30+18 Ejets = 48
36 Ejets Currently on property
48 x 6 Crew/Ejet = 576 Total Crew Rqrd for EJets (this is a very generous Mesa staffing estimate.)
213 Current Captains Awarded Ejet and total required 288+20 Extras (TrngDept/Office)
3/mo. Max Attrition Ejet Captains
Seniority #768 most Junior Ejet Captain Award (DOH 10/16/2014) with prior 121 Experience. The latest award however went senior to him due to pilots deciding late on upgrade or pilots hitting the requirements for upgrade.
Seniority #1250 Most Junior Pilot on Master Roster (CRJ&Ejet)
Please feel free to correct any errors I may have made.
Last edited by SubwaySandwich; 03-26-2016 at 08:35 PM.
03-26-2016, 08:18 PM
#5346
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,198
Hey what's the drop dead date? The date that draws the line of "last quick upgrade" shot at Mesa at least for Ejet because we all know that's what they want.
I know a lot of people will chime in and say "Mesa's Inception" date but hey jokes aside I need a "range of dates."
People keep saying the quick upgrade ship has sailed but when did it sail?
30+18 Ejets = 48
36 Ejets Currently on property
48 x 5 Crew/Ejet = 480 Total Crew Rqrd for Ejet (this is a generous Mesa staffing estimate.)
213 Current Captains Awarded Ejet and total required 240+20 Extras (TrngDept)
3/mo. Max Attrition Ejet Captains
Seniority #768 most Junior Ejet Captain Award (DOH 10/16/2014) with prior 121 Experience. The latest award however went senior to him due to pilots deciding late on upgrade or pilots hitting the requirements for upgrade.
Seniority #1250 Most Junior Pilot on Master Roster (CRJ&Ejet)
Please feel free to correct any errors I may have made.
I know a lot of people will chime in and say "Mesa's Inception" date but hey jokes aside I need a "range of dates."
People keep saying the quick upgrade ship has sailed but when did it sail?
30+18 Ejets = 48
36 Ejets Currently on property
48 x 5 Crew/Ejet = 480 Total Crew Rqrd for Ejet (this is a generous Mesa staffing estimate.)
213 Current Captains Awarded Ejet and total required 240+20 Extras (TrngDept)
3/mo. Max Attrition Ejet Captains
Seniority #768 most Junior Ejet Captain Award (DOH 10/16/2014) with prior 121 Experience. The latest award however went senior to him due to pilots deciding late on upgrade or pilots hitting the requirements for upgrade.
Seniority #1250 Most Junior Pilot on Master Roster (CRJ&Ejet)
Please feel free to correct any errors I may have made.
03-26-2016, 08:30 PM
#5347
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Posts: 73
Drop dead date? There isn't one... Keep in mind, the e-jet is flown by a jr pilot group who aren't lifers, like the crj is. Nearly every E-jet CA is building time to leave for a LCC or major. There will always be movement on the E-jet. The CRJ has movement too, but it also has a seniority list that rivals Envoy's in terms of old hats who aren't going anywhere until they retire. There are rumors of potentially allowing some CRJ CA's to move to the E-Jet.
I'm sure that's what current Ejet CA/FOs want to hear
Care to take a stab at current Ejet captain attrition? My guess is max 3/mo.
03-27-2016, 05:08 AM
#5348
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
Have we ever staffed the ejet with 6 crews?
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