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Old 03-22-2016, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
Moved up 20 seniority numbers in a month at DFW and still on reserve.
This place is hopeless. Can't win for losing.
If it makes you feel better, my friend at Envoy spent the last 4.5 to 5 years on reserve, as a commuter, flying less than you.
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Old 03-22-2016, 11:51 AM
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It just gives me an idea of what the company was willing to give
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
It just gives me an idea of what the company was willing to give
Not a penny more than is required to stay in business, which is the goal of any for profit company.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
If it makes you feel better, my friend at Envoy spent the last 4.5 to 5 years on reserve, as a commuter, flying less than you.
I don't know if it makes me feel better, but it certainly makes me feel for him.
I guess I'm just concerned that my seniority range in DFW had been treading water for 4 months now; moving up seniorty-wise and staying the same distance from holding a line.
Makes me feel like there's no hope, especially with supposedly many people coming in underneath me with overflowing new-hire classes yet no actual sign of moving up the rung, all for the worst pay in the business (even playing field when I started last year).
Feel like it's worth it to move on, yet also feel it's worth it to stick around and not make lateral moves; to get my 1000 and either upgrade or move right seat to bigger right seat..
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
I don't know if it makes me feel better, but it certainly makes me feel for him.
I guess I'm just concerned that my seniority range in DFW had been treading water for 4 months now; moving up seniorty-wise and staying the same distance from holding a line.
Makes me feel like there's no hope, especially with supposedly many people coming in underneath me with overflowing new-hire classes yet no actual sign of moving up the rung, all for the worst pay in the business (even playing field when I started last year).
Feel like it's worth it to move on, yet also feel it's worth it to stick around and not make lateral moves; to get my 1000 and either upgrade or move right seat to bigger right seat..
Took me 11 months to hold a line in DFW. It's nothing new, the recruiters just lied to you.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Not a penny more than is required to stay in business, which is the goal of any for profit company.
This.....

Which is why we shouldn't buy the "Mesa is broke" hype. It's a chess game and they won the last round.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:53 PM
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Mesa sucks, go elsewhere.

The recruiters are scum for putting forth their shameful effort in convincing people to come here.
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
I don't know if it makes me feel better, but it certainly makes me feel for him.
I guess I'm just concerned that my seniority range in DFW had been treading water for 4 months now; moving up seniorty-wise and staying the same distance from holding a line.
Makes me feel like there's no hope, especially with supposedly many people coming in underneath me with overflowing new-hire classes yet no actual sign of moving up the rung, all for the worst pay in the business (even playing field when I started last year).
Feel like it's worth it to move on, yet also feel it's worth it to stick around and not make lateral moves; to get my 1000 and either upgrade or move right seat to bigger right seat..
Theres 18 fewer lines in DFW next month? This is why you feel like you haven't moved. Look at your global seniority number, that should make you feel better
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Old 03-22-2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
It just gives me an idea of what the company was willing to give
The problem with answering this is one persons idea of a gain is different then another's
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Old 03-22-2016, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
I don't know if it makes me feel better, but it certainly makes me feel for him.
I guess I'm just concerned that my seniority range in DFW had been treading water for 4 months now; moving up seniorty-wise and staying the same distance from holding a line.
Makes me feel like there's no hope, especially with supposedly many people coming in underneath me with overflowing new-hire classes yet no actual sign of moving up the rung, all for the worst pay in the business (even playing field when I started last year).
Feel like it's worth it to move on, yet also feel it's worth it to stick around and not make lateral moves; to get my 1000 and either upgrade or move right seat to bigger right seat..

It's not about how many are below you when it comes to a line but how many are above. Whether a base as 100 or 300 pilots. If there is only enough block hours for 85 lines there's only 85 lines.
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