New Mesa Thread
03-21-2016, 02:32 PM
#5301
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 304
Put your apps out everywhere! The majors are hiring and if you can pass the online personality assessments and meet the mins they will call you. I was a former mesa FO in Phx until a few weeks ago. Was supposed to upgrade last month on the 175, but 3 days before my class I got a call from Virgin America with a class date for this month.
They are looking for people, and it doesn't matter how much time you have these days. They hire now on the type of person you are and if the fact they can stand to be with you for a 4 day trip. I had just about 2600 hrs and no Tpic, no degree yet (graduating end of this year). Don't be lazy and put in the few hours to constantly update your apps and never give up. The grass is greener on the other side, but you have to work for it. I wish the best to all the other pilots at Mesa, just keep on applying and updating !!
They are looking for people, and it doesn't matter how much time you have these days. They hire now on the type of person you are and if the fact they can stand to be with you for a 4 day trip. I had just about 2600 hrs and no Tpic, no degree yet (graduating end of this year). Don't be lazy and put in the few hours to constantly update your apps and never give up. The grass is greener on the other side, but you have to work for it. I wish the best to all the other pilots at Mesa, just keep on applying and updating !!
03-21-2016, 02:34 PM
#5302
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 233
Question for MAGPbs:
What does the "IB" mean next to lines with no flying?
What does the "IB" mean next to lines with no flying?
03-21-2016, 07:46 PM
#5305
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 446
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Moved up 20 seniority numbers in a month at DFW and still on reserve.
This place is hopeless. Can't win for losing.
This place is hopeless. Can't win for losing.
03-21-2016, 09:31 PM
#5306
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
The growth curve is stalling out, and attrition is picking up from both seats--you can't grow if you're only hiring enough "passable" folks to cover attrition.
We're basically in a "hamster wheel"/stuck in a rut mode right now in terms of staffing vs. attrition--I'll gladly bet money we'll end up delaying or cancelling a handful of those additional 18 EJets before the summer hiring season at the legacies/LCCs is over.
And if Endeavor gets EJets (which all indicators are pointing towards) it's going to become that much more difficult for Mesa to recruit and retain even the most rabid, SJS-infected souls--even the ones born and raised in Houston. $50k/year 1st year vs. $22/hour 1st year to fly that shiny Electric Jet? The old guys will just buy tickets to JFK/DTW/MSP with all that extra money.
Don't get me wrong--I don't want Mesa to falter or fail to staff--I don't want us to shrink, b/c that would be bad for my QOL/finances. But every single one of our additional 18 EJets is going to be exponentially harder and more expensive to staff than the previous delivery--that's just the facts of the current hiring environment/talent pool.
You'll know if we're going to make it to 18 by around August-October 2016. Come back to this post then and you'll see if I'm right or not.
Last edited by flapshalfspeed; 03-21-2016 at 09:47 PM.
03-22-2016, 03:58 AM
#5307
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
We're barely hiring to cover attrition right now, and I really, really don't think we're going to make it to 18 additional EJets. The possibility of taking on more than that is patently absurd.
The growth curve is stalling out, and attrition is picking up from both seats--you can't grow if you're only hiring enough "passable" folks to cover attrition.
We're basically in a "hamster wheel"/stuck in a rut mode right now in terms of staffing vs. attrition--I'll gladly bet money we'll end up delaying or cancelling a handful of those additional 18 EJets before the summer hiring season at the legacies/LCCs is over.
And if Endeavor gets EJets (which all indicators are pointing towards) it's going to become that much more difficult for Mesa to recruit and retain even the most rabid, SJS-infected souls--even the ones born and raised in Houston. $50k/year 1st year vs. $22/hour 1st year to fly that shiny Electric Jet? The old guys will just buy tickets to JFK/DTW/MSP with all that extra money.
Don't get me wrong--I don't want Mesa to falter or fail to staff--I don't want us to shrink, b/c that would be bad for my QOL/finances. But every single one of our additional 18 EJets is going to be exponentially harder and more expensive to staff than the previous delivery--that's just the facts of the current hiring environment/talent pool.
You'll know if we're going to make it to 18 by around August-October 2016. Come back to this post then and you'll see if I'm right or not.
The growth curve is stalling out, and attrition is picking up from both seats--you can't grow if you're only hiring enough "passable" folks to cover attrition.
We're basically in a "hamster wheel"/stuck in a rut mode right now in terms of staffing vs. attrition--I'll gladly bet money we'll end up delaying or cancelling a handful of those additional 18 EJets before the summer hiring season at the legacies/LCCs is over.
And if Endeavor gets EJets (which all indicators are pointing towards) it's going to become that much more difficult for Mesa to recruit and retain even the most rabid, SJS-infected souls--even the ones born and raised in Houston. $50k/year 1st year vs. $22/hour 1st year to fly that shiny Electric Jet? The old guys will just buy tickets to JFK/DTW/MSP with all that extra money.
Don't get me wrong--I don't want Mesa to falter or fail to staff--I don't want us to shrink, b/c that would be bad for my QOL/finances. But every single one of our additional 18 EJets is going to be exponentially harder and more expensive to staff than the previous delivery--that's just the facts of the current hiring environment/talent pool.
You'll know if we're going to make it to 18 by around August-October 2016. Come back to this post then and you'll see if I'm right or not.
03-22-2016, 08:34 AM
#5308
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 564
The TA that was voted down last time, what were the improvements in it?
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