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08-15-2015, 04:32 AM
#512
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
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Really? Can you point out the section please? I have never seen it. Maybe I missed it somehow.
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08-15-2015, 05:04 AM
#515
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
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I agree totally. After looking at this I see so many vague things this thing is going to be a grievance nightmare! You would think these guys negotiating would have learned we needed specific language, not just more air filled language. How about something like..after 4 or more reports of bed bugs in any rolling 6 month period, the company will find a new hotel to put crews up permanently. Not, we will be notified and discuss the situation garbage...
I love how after coming back from a flight, the contract states they could reassign you to ready reserve. Per the FAR and the latest interpretations they cannot assign you RR. Only more flying, or regular reserve. Errors already. Unless something has been redefined recently.
I don't like this reserve system balancing either. I don't see how that benefits anyone. If you are junior you need hours to consolidate anyway. As you get senior, you get better trips ahead of time if you are CMF and that helps with commuting. If you are home based you can bid CML and sit at home. So reserve balancing would be worse for everyone I think. I don't see how it would benefit Mesa either.
I love how after coming back from a flight, the contract states they could reassign you to ready reserve. Per the FAR and the latest interpretations they cannot assign you RR. Only more flying, or regular reserve. Errors already. Unless something has been redefined recently.
I don't like this reserve system balancing either. I don't see how that benefits anyone. If you are junior you need hours to consolidate anyway. As you get senior, you get better trips ahead of time if you are CMF and that helps with commuting. If you are home based you can bid CML and sit at home. So reserve balancing would be worse for everyone I think. I don't see how it would benefit Mesa either.
Ready reserve in the middle of an FDP is not prohibited by FAR 117. The current contract prohibits assigning ready reserve to a line holder. That holds true in the TA, although I can't find it on second reading.
08-15-2015, 06:40 AM
#516
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,602
Wow I wish I was flying today just to hear what guys are saying. But sounds like this is going down in flames.
And to get this straight Call me first call me last is out?! I planned on bidding CMF the whole time I was perma reserve in DFW
And to get this straight Call me first call me last is out?! I planned on bidding CMF the whole time I was perma reserve in DFW
08-15-2015, 06:56 AM
#517
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
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Posts: 371
CMF/CML is still there, but only used when all things are equal. Reserve usage will now be based on hours flown so everybody on will be used roughly the same amount.
08-15-2015, 07:11 AM
#519
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
And senior people should have first crack at it if they are CMF. Shouldn't be based on hour equality. I wonder if polled how many eligible voters would want the new language vs the old language. If a majority would rather have it the way it is, why is the union, which is supposed to negotiate for what the pilots want (not what they think is best for us), changing it or letting it be changed when the majority of the pilot group doesn't want it? Or did the company steamroll them bc they don't want people breaking guarantee?
08-15-2015, 07:19 AM
#520
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,602
Had to be the company to save cash. This is a big no for me.
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