New Mesa Thread
08-14-2015, 02:52 PM
#471
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 298
TA language is available now
08-14-2015, 02:56 PM
#472
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 175 Left
Posts: 1,539
Nobody expected it to be good bro? Everybody knew itd be ****. Everybody knows the only reason most people are here is because nobody could get out during the lost decade. And uhhh yeah it needs to burn down. If mesa didnt exist because of ****ty pay rates the next company would have to do something different. So yeah. Vote NO. Because ******* this place and we shouldnt stand for it. JO is laughing at you bro. You know that right? He couldnt give a damn if you feed your kids. He couldnt give a damn if you pay your bills. He is laughing at all of us for agreeing to this. Lmfao best we can get? Uhh right....well hey guess what! Best the MEC can get isnt good enough and actually no thanks. Heres your instability JO...goodluck taking it public and bailing.
Fffffff uuuuuuuuuuu
#votenoandcallinsick
Fffffff uuuuuuuuuuu
#votenoandcallinsick
Mesa hasn't even pulled hiring bonuses out of it's pocket, once they do that coupled with the more EJETs announcement you better bet there will be pilots lining up to take your IAD CRJ FO seat, hell I fly with them everyday outta IAH, right off IOE.
You guys need to wait to read the actual TA. I'm worried that a lot of you won't even do your due diligence, because you guy's have been so brain washed by the senior CAs with the GEDs/High School diploma only education saying F Mesa unless it's XJT rates forget it.
You guys understand what it means when independent CPAs audit the books and say there is no money, right? Oh that's right they were all paid off by JO to say that......
Mainline DOESN'T like Mesa. We are the rag tag group of the regionals. The only reason we get flying is because we under bid EVERYONE. Funny even facebiter gets it. Yet you guys don't.
There's a reason most of you reading this were hired over the phone. Don't
forget that.
08-14-2015, 03:08 PM
#476
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 35
Looks like its 1% raise for F/O's!
08-14-2015, 03:23 PM
#477
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 175 Left
Posts: 1,539
Still 50% dhd pay.
$1.50 per diem.
I'll make $1-2 more an hour as a line holding 175 CA.
This isn't going to pass.
Here is what is going to happen:
TA IS A NO.
Jonathan uses money that was ear marked for this TA, for new hire bonuses. Life continues at Mesa as it has the last three years.
Back to work kids, nothing to see here.....
$1.50 per diem.
I'll make $1-2 more an hour as a line holding 175 CA.
This isn't going to pass.
Here is what is going to happen:
TA IS A NO.
Jonathan uses money that was ear marked for this TA, for new hire bonuses. Life continues at Mesa as it has the last three years.
Back to work kids, nothing to see here.....
Last edited by prior121; 08-14-2015 at 03:39 PM.
08-14-2015, 03:51 PM
#478
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
Still 50% dhd pay.
$1.50 per diem.
I'll make $1-2 more an hour as a line holding 175 CA.
This isn't going to pass.
Here is what is going to happen:
TA IS A NO.
Jonathan uses money that was ear marked for this TA, for new hire bonuses. Life continues at Mesa as it has the last three years.
Back to work kids, nothing to see here.....
$1.50 per diem.
I'll make $1-2 more an hour as a line holding 175 CA.
This isn't going to pass.
Here is what is going to happen:
TA IS A NO.
Jonathan uses money that was ear marked for this TA, for new hire bonuses. Life continues at Mesa as it has the last three years.
Back to work kids, nothing to see here.....
08-14-2015, 03:52 PM
#479
Living the Dream
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,795
I only see two noteworthy positive additions in this TA, but neither is game changing. Bad day/Worse day finally allows us to swap a day in the red for a day further in the red. Don't see why this had to be negotiated for. The second thing is Long Call Reserve. That's fine and well but most pilots aren't on reserve, and this will only help 20% of the ones who are.
Some bones to pick...
FO (and CA) rates are only increased by 1%. Thanks for nothing. That still puts us 5-10 dollars behind our peers.
Deadheads are still paid at 50%.
The company still gets to screw around with PBS for several days. But hey, we get our schedules slightly earlier now.
No min day. This doesn't have to cost the company anything if they just made us efficient lines.
I didn't see any language about those stupid buffers. Really?
Nothing about hotel quality.
Dropping reserve days might be nice for a few people, but why does that cost 4 hours of pay when vacation days are paid at 3?
No insurance improvements.
Annual longevity pay increases are still tied to the closest pay period, not actual date of hire. That's a lot of lost money.
And, drumroll, we're pay protected if we're kidnapped or killed by the Cartel. Terrific.
Some bones to pick...
FO (and CA) rates are only increased by 1%. Thanks for nothing. That still puts us 5-10 dollars behind our peers.
Deadheads are still paid at 50%.
The company still gets to screw around with PBS for several days. But hey, we get our schedules slightly earlier now.
No min day. This doesn't have to cost the company anything if they just made us efficient lines.
I didn't see any language about those stupid buffers. Really?
Nothing about hotel quality.
Dropping reserve days might be nice for a few people, but why does that cost 4 hours of pay when vacation days are paid at 3?
No insurance improvements.
Annual longevity pay increases are still tied to the closest pay period, not actual date of hire. That's a lot of lost money.
And, drumroll, we're pay protected if we're kidnapped or killed by the Cartel. Terrific.
08-14-2015, 03:58 PM
#480
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 503
Someone with 8 months of senority. Should I jump ship or wait it out
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