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Old 12-30-2015, 04:27 PM
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Old 12-30-2015, 05:58 PM
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New guy question...
Since the last proposed contract was thankfully a NoGo, how long does Mesa plan on waiting before trying to come back to the pilot group with a better offer? I'm just assuming here, but aren't the new hire classes drying up? Being that 22 per hr is no longer the standard for the regionals, JO has to have a plan by now.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:02 PM
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Not for a while classes are full for now
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Old 12-30-2015, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by airborne840
New guy question...
Since the last proposed contract was thankfully a NoGo, how long does Mesa plan on waiting before trying to come back to the pilot group with a better offer? I'm just assuming here, but aren't the new hire classes drying up? Being that 22 per hr is no longer the standard for the regionals, JO has to have a plan by now.
Well our negotiating committee and most of the MEC all resigned their positions after the TA failed. Considering the negotiators have to be trained and the MEC has to collect all the data on why the TA failed and come up with a game plan for the next round of negotiations, I doubt they are ready to go back to the table with the Company just yet. The company would much rather keep us on the current contract for as long as they can so you won't find them badgering the union for a new contract in a hurry.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stratapilot
I'm thinking about changing my standing bid from CA DFW CRJ to CA IAH ERJ. Im currently a DFW FO and live 20 minutes from DFW, but I'm concerned that the CRJ upgrade train has stopped for a while. On the other hand I truly hate commuting.

Is it worth it to suck it up and commute to the ERJ, or be patient and bide my time and stick with the CRJ?

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You live 20 minutes from DFW but you're thinking of going to IAH? DFW is the more junior CA base. And even if you had to wait six extra months, DFW seems like a no-brainer.
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MachTwo
Wow! I thought that finding another job was hard. Mesa, got to say goodbye. I found a new gig within a week. Pays more than double, and benefits are “way better”. No OBAMACARE for me. You all enjoy your less than adequate pay and benefits, for the hope of an early upgrade. It will not happen. All of the upgrades in the next 3-4 years are already on the property. So you can take your $22.00/hr and OBAMACARE, and……………….. Peace out.
Why the "OBAMACARE" bashing? (Other than the obvious, that is.) I had a plan I bought through Healthcare.gov while I was at Mesa, and it was awesome. Top health insurer in my state. Much better insurance than I'm now getting (for the same out of pocket cost) at SkyWest.

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I'm thinking about changing my standing bid from CA DFW CRJ to CA IAH ERJ. Im currently a DFW FO and live 20 minutes from DFW, but I'm concerned that the CRJ upgrade train has stopped for a while. On the other hand I truly hate commuting.

Is it worth it to suck it up and commute to the ERJ, or be patient and bide my time and stick with the CRJ?

Thoughts?
What makes you think you'll upgrade quicker on the ERJ? Most of the FOs flying it came here with 121 time, they'll upgrade much sooner than you. Hate to break the bad news to you but if you didn't bring a bunch of 121 time with you or were hired in mid-2014 or earlier, there will be no quick upgrade for you.
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by airborne840
New guy question...
Since the last proposed contract was thankfully a NoGo, how long does Mesa plan on waiting before trying to come back to the pilot group with a better offer? I'm just assuming here, but aren't the new hire classes drying up? Being that 22 per hr is no longer the standard for the regionals, JO has to have a plan by now.
We'll send back planes before we raise payrates imho--this isn't a wholly-owned cost center type operation.

If we can't staff the feed at existing profit margins/rates, we will send it back and say "sorry can't staff it at that rate." Whether mainline comes back to us with a flow or CPA rate increase has absolutely nothing to do with ALPA at all.

Just giving you cold hard facts...can ALPA turn the screws on the company versus what they're doing now? Sure--sure they can. But can they force an increase in payrates, or a comprehensively-better/satisfactory CBA? Nah--probably not.

Mesa's key benefit at the moment is that our flight ops management doesn't try to micromanage us like every other regional--HR has less power than our chief pilots, and that's the main reason I like working here...if that ever changes and we turn into some Republic/Endeavor/XJet management culture where HR micromanages the daily life of pilots, then yeah--people are going to leave.

Personally, I think Mesa is worth a few bucks less per hour on the payscale precisely because management leaves us the heck alone about minor things like sick calls. At present, if your flights go out on time and you aren't breaking things, they leave you the heck alone--which is exactly how it should be. If that ever changes, a handful of people will put their "next job" plans in motion--hopefully the continuing policy of "hands-off" management will continue, for the sake of anyone who works here!
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Old 12-31-2015, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
What makes you think you'll upgrade quicker on the ERJ? Most of the FOs flying it came here with 121 time, they'll upgrade much sooner than you. Hate to break the bad news to you but if you didn't bring a bunch of 121 time with you or were hired in mid-2014 or earlier, there will be no quick upgrade for you.
I came here with 2500 hours of turbine 121 time in an EMB-145 (Which is also a consideration since I'm really familiar with the Embraer way of designing stuff) I have multiple captain recs, so I'm all set to go. Now it's just a waiting game.

On a personal note, you were the FO on my fam ride. We did PHX to OAK. Thanks for showing me around the CRJ on the preflight.

How's Skywest?
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Old 12-31-2015, 10:43 AM
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What's the "Crash Pad Assistance Program" JO mentioned in his email just now?
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:41 PM
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What's the "Crash Pad Assistance Program" JO mentioned in his email just now?
This has excited for most of the year, nothing new. It's $200/mo reimbursement for FA's
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