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Old 12-08-2015, 01:48 PM
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The Microtel we stay at in JAX is actually nice.
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Harpyr
Yawn.

Since you're clearly only interested in putting words in my mouth, here's what I actually think: regionals all need better hotels, pay, benefits, etc. You name it, it should be better, given what we do. We should absolutely fight for better pay and QOL, part of which is better hotels.

I'm only saying that in my experience, having flown for one of those regionals with nice hotels, the gap in quality is not tremendous.
How many microtels and guesthouse suites did you stay in at your former regional?
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
How many microtels and guesthouse suites did you stay in at your former regional?
Very few, but I don't have an exact number.

Their favorite thing to do was to find where big name hotels had bought older, failing hotels, and "renovated" them. You might see a hotel brand listed that you like, but arrive to something less than desirable.

I haven't stayed in a Microtel or Guesthouse Suites here at Mesa, yet, but I haven't flown the whole system yet either. There is a difference in quality, but my 2¢ is that it's not as big as it was being made out to be.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
You have no idea what you're talking about and I guarantee I've been in this industry longer than you, bro.

Have some more respect for yourselves, guys--we're airline pilots regardless of who or what we work for. Better hotels won't bankrupt the company.
Yea I'm brand new to the airlines and have my head in the sand. Somehow I got 3 type ratings and 6,000+ 121 hours by magic. Your full of �� About two of the regionals you said have great hotels. I worked for two of them and we stay at alot of the same hotels! The crappy one in Pitt is a republic hotel. The people complaining about abq... Try staying at the ghetto republic hotel there. Pear tree ghetto inn was a gojet, republic, and us airways hotel. I would love nicer hotels, but don't act like everyone has it much better.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:15 PM
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Don't care what anyone says, the Guesthouse Suites in ELP is one of my favorite overnights.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:51 PM
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Out of CLT, we had crappy hotels, really crappy. The hotels in the DFW system are much better and you all need to thank your hotel committee for the work they are doing.
I am just happy that I don't have to deal with Allentown any more at that swinger motel.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pullout
PAX safety is more important than the company making a buck. I'm sad some don't see this.
I think you're accidentally posting in the wrong thread. You go find that thread you thought you were in, and you let'em have it! Whoever is making that argument sure sounds dumb, whatever thread that's happening in.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pullout
Maybe I'm talking to others besides just you. This thread (and life in general) is about more than just you and your opinion. Get over yourself and try considering others before yourself.

There are a lot of complaints about hotels, so that statement fits perfectly.

Or do you think lack of sleep or inability to sleep is not important in our industry?

Just realized I'm feeding a troll. My bad people. I apologize.
The OP you quoted wasn't making the argument you were sad about. I checked to see if anyone else was saying something like that, and they weren't. I was literally only considering others.

Your unfounded snarky statement to the OP you quoted was confusing, moreso now with your urge to consider others. That's all.

Everything you're saying about safety and regional pilots deserving better is well founded and good, so I agree and think we're on the same side in the big picture.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:20 PM
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We all want better hotels. We're in agreement. Many of us have sent compelling pictures and emails and complaints to the Hotel Committee and Mesa, but is there anything else to do? So far these actions have effected little change.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
We all want better hotels. We're in agreement. Many of us have sent compelling pictures and emails and complaints to the Hotel Committee and Mesa, but is there anything else to do? So far these actions have effected little change.
Just complaining through API or whoever really won't do that much from what I've seen. I believe our contract says something along the lines of "the company will make prompt inquiries into complaints" but that wording suggests that they really don't have to do much. Fatigue calls and/or filing an ASAP will really rattle things up.

Can't sleep due to noise, unruly guests, changing rooms in the middle of the night, etc...? Fatigue call and file an ASAP since it is safety related. WiFi completely blows and you can't update your Jepps and company manulas for the next day? File a complaint and an ASAP, especially now that we don't have paper manuals in the aircraft anymore. Enough canceled flights due to fatigue calls and they will get serious quick. Plus anything filed through ASAP will get the FAA interested and they will follow up with the company to see what the company has done to mitigate the risk.
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