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12-06-2015, 07:54 PM
#2821
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I hear ya. Mesa is going to have to step up their game, and soon. Xjet is looking to increase FO pay by Jan, and Envoy already has a bonus (which is silly, IMHO), but that will leave Mesa in the dust pretty soon. Hopefully they rally with increased FO pay, and stay in the game!
12-06-2015, 08:04 PM
#2822
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Maybe last year. I don't think anyone with experience and knowledge of the industry is making a lateral to Mesa anymore. I was referencing the fact that all these captains keep saying every FO they fly with is on the way out. Not a good sign. The quick upgrade only lasts as long as new hires keep coming in the door. The only chance for Mesa to get improvements to their contract is if hiring becomes a problem.
12-06-2015, 08:39 PM
#2823
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Maybe last year. I don't think anyone with experience and knowledge of the industry is making a lateral to Mesa anymore. I was referencing the fact that all these captains keep saying every FO they fly with is on the way out. Not a good sign. The quick upgrade only lasts as long as new hires keep coming in the door. The only chance for Mesa to get improvements to their contract is if hiring becomes a problem.
Believing that every FO is leaving because you read it on APC is cray. Going back to zero at another regional isn't even all that great a move.
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12-06-2015, 08:54 PM
#2824
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I had a Commuter DH pilot today who said that the 145s they are taking on are going to IAD. Thats a lot more RJs in Dulles, and not a lot of room. 700s to EWR sounding more likely....
12-07-2015, 12:44 AM
#2825
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Neither is true. New Ejets going to IAH to support the 8 new cities in Mexico that United is opening up. Ejets will continue to "flow" through IAD with 2 staying the night. For now no Ejets in IAD MX hangar to small "confirmed" and they want to keep operations seperate. 700's in no danger of being moved for forsee able future. *Sources IAD station manager, head of MX in IAH, and Mechanic in IAD. These people would be in the loop if changes were taking place in the next 6 months.
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United is loving the EJet/East Coast service in IAD--they want that to continue. They are more likely to do new-market Mexico flying with Skywest 700s, which makes sense since we're taking over longer-haul previously-Skywest 700 routes like IAH-ONT. Skywest 700s can easily compete with AA 900 service out of DFW on most Mexico markets large and small.
Also--it's averaging closer to 5 RON Ejets in IAD a night--not 2. It's not a big deal if there aren't any EJets "in the hangar." We regularly have service checks done in OKC and I believe IAD. They're new planes--they don't need a lot of touch-time or parts in IAH to keep flying.
Lastly, the next 15 EJets were originally Republic deliveries. United and Republic are still working out what they can't staff and what they can, but any regional attempting to stop the bleeding will obviously push hard to cut the most problematic portions of their schedule from the system first...Republic Q/Ejet east coast flying is the most likely candidate for replacement by an another operation.
My source says we'll have 700s or EJets in EWR by the end of 2016--I'm willing to put money on it. Maintenance always hears about these things after the fact--not before. You can ship parts on FedEx last-minute on a much tighter deadline than a crew for a 4-day
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12-07-2015, 07:51 AM
#2826
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My source at United SOC (and within Mesa--a person higher than your mechanics' tales) say otherwise.
United is loving the EJet/East Coast service in IAD--they want that to continue. They are more likely to do new-market Mexico flying with Skywest 700s, which makes sense since we're taking over longer-haul previously-Skywest 700 routes like IAH-ONT. Skywest 700s can easily compete with AA 900 service out of DFW on most Mexico markets large and small.
Also--it's averaging closer to 5 RON Ejets in IAD a night--not 2. It's not a big deal if there aren't any EJets "in the hangar." We regularly have service checks done in OKC and I believe IAD. They're new planes--they don't need a lot of touch-time or parts in IAH to keep flying.
Lastly, the next 15 EJets were originally Republic deliveries. United and Republic are still working out what they can't staff and what they can, but any regional attempting to stop the bleeding will obviously push hard to cut the most problematic portions of their schedule from the system first...Republic Q/Ejet east coast flying is the most likely candidate for replacement by an another operation.
My source says we'll have 700s or EJets in EWR by the end of 2016--I'm willing to put money on it. Maintenance always hears about these things after the fact--not before. You can ship parts on FedEx last-minute on a much tighter deadline than a crew for a 4-day
United is loving the EJet/East Coast service in IAD--they want that to continue. They are more likely to do new-market Mexico flying with Skywest 700s, which makes sense since we're taking over longer-haul previously-Skywest 700 routes like IAH-ONT. Skywest 700s can easily compete with AA 900 service out of DFW on most Mexico markets large and small.
Also--it's averaging closer to 5 RON Ejets in IAD a night--not 2. It's not a big deal if there aren't any EJets "in the hangar." We regularly have service checks done in OKC and I believe IAD. They're new planes--they don't need a lot of touch-time or parts in IAH to keep flying.
Lastly, the next 15 EJets were originally Republic deliveries. United and Republic are still working out what they can't staff and what they can, but any regional attempting to stop the bleeding will obviously push hard to cut the most problematic portions of their schedule from the system first...Republic Q/Ejet east coast flying is the most likely candidate for replacement by an another operation.
My source says we'll have 700s or EJets in EWR by the end of 2016--I'm willing to put money on it. Maintenance always hears about these things after the fact--not before. You can ship parts on FedEx last-minute on a much tighter deadline than a crew for a 4-day
My sources say UAL is at max 700/175s at 255 and in order to add 175s they have to park 700s
A new TA on a 2 year extension has no scope relief either
So somehow 700s must go in order for 175s to show up
Or they have to order more narrow body aircraft to increase the 175s
So don't dream more growth , replacement of a/c from now on
Your upper management has been lying to you about growth
12-07-2015, 08:32 AM
#2828
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Please for the love of kale no more east coast flying. ORD or DEN would be nice. LAX/SFO even nicer but we all know Skyworst has a death grip on United's west coast regional feed.
I just don't get why Mesa can't solidify domiciles like other regionals have done.
I just don't get why Mesa can't solidify domiciles like other regionals have done.
12-07-2015, 08:48 AM
#2829
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My sources say UAL is at max 700/175s at 255 and in order to add 175s they have to park 700s
A new TA on a 2 year extension has no scope relief either
So somehow 700s must go in order for 175s to show up
Or they have to order more narrow body aircraft to increase the 175s
So don't dream more growth , replacement of a/c from now on
Your upper management has been lying to you about growth
A new TA on a 2 year extension has no scope relief either
So somehow 700s must go in order for 175s to show up
Or they have to order more narrow body aircraft to increase the 175s
So don't dream more growth , replacement of a/c from now on
Your upper management has been lying to you about growth
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