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Old 12-04-2015, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
DFW base for Envoy is senior. If you're on the CRJ you'll be in Chicago.
DFW base for Mesa is junior and every other class gets DFW right out of training.
I chose Mesa because I live in base. It makes the most sense on any first year FO pay.
Thank you. That's what I'm looking for. How is working for Mesa even though there is less pay?
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jimf
Really not about being dumb... I would consider placing myself in a position that I would be riding right seat for the next 10-15 years a decision less than wise. It is not always about pay.... and this decision would have nothing to do with pay. It's the other factors that I am interested in. I'm in the DFW area.... Mesa would possibly fit with a DFW domicile. Hiring at Mesa is good. Upgrades might slow down but much better than some. So I am taking pay out of the equation and asking about the other factors. Pay is at the bottom of my list of needs.
Right now movement at Mesa is good. How long that lasts remains to be seen. If you're coming in with no 121 time, the 18-24 months it will take you to get it is going to be a long time with the way things are moving in this industry. If Mesa can afford to increase pilot compensation then it will probably be ok. If not and pilots stop coming here, then movement will stagnate and we may find ourselves in a situation like Republic. How long any of this takes to play out is anyone's guess.

As far as how we are treated, Mesa is actually a fairly decent place to work (it hasn't always been that way). When things get tight on staffing that may change, but for now it's good.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jimf
Question about Mesa:

I see FO pay mentioned quite often in this thread. If you were to take the aspect of less pay out of the equation because it wasn't a factor for you and didn't matter, is Mesa a good regional to fly for?

Thank you in advance for your help. Doing a little homework up front.
You're doing it wrong.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jimf
Really not about being dumb... I would consider placing myself in a position that I would be riding right seat for the next 10-15 years a decision less than wise. It is not always about pay.... and this decision would have nothing to do with pay. It's the other factors that I am interested in. I'm in the DFW area.... Mesa would possibly fit with a DFW domicile. Hiring at Mesa is good. Upgrades might slow down but much better than some. So I am taking pay out of the equation and asking about the other factors. Pay is at the bottom of my list of needs.
Dear Jimf, you might be wealthy but most of us here are not. Please respect your future coworkers and do not provoke by saying you don't care about pay rates. It is not professional, neither polite. If you don't care about salary keep it for yourself. I think you should avoid posts like "Pay is at the bottom of my list needs". People here are struggling to cover their expenses. At least show some respect to them
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jimf
Question about Mesa:

I see FO pay mentioned quite often in this thread. If you were to take the aspect of less pay out of the equation because it wasn't a factor for you and didn't matter, is Mesa a good regional to fly for?

Thank you in advance for your help. Doing a little homework up front.
Yes, it is. Great pilot group, excellent training program, decent bases, and management leaves you alone.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
You're doing it wrong.
How so? Wrong not to worry about pay?
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucketofpropwas
Thanks I'm trying to save my pennies for IAH and life on reserve. Things I'll be paying for just so I don't freak when my first pay check is zero:
iPad & mount, uniforms, KCM, commuter airport parking, base parking, and do we really have to pay for soda water on the plane during flight?
Feel free to add to the list of miscellaneous charges I will incur by joining MESA?

Why would you pay for base and commuter parking?

Who is feeding y'all this info? Are you really that dense?

Of course we don't pay for drinks on the plane.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jimf
How so? Wrong not to worry about pay?
Yes. This isn't a hobby. This is a career. You don't hear doctors saying, "I don't care how much you pay me. I just want to cut into people."
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:15 AM
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Who cares if he doesn't need the money? I don't find it offensive, in fact I enjoy picking the brain of these guys on money matters during a 4 day.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jimf
How so? Wrong not to worry about pay?
If I have to explain it, you won't get it.
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