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#2731
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 304
I'm just posting information so people can use it to make decisions based on what works for them. If it works, do it. If it won't work, find a different option. It's better to manage expectations.
#2732
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 49
CRJ vs EJET probably comes down to where you live vs where the bases are.
Reserve is all short call with some ready reserve (airport reserve). 12 hour shifts for short call (either morning or afternoon), 8 hours for ready. You cannot pick up trips on reserve. Expect about 3 months on reserve on the EJET.
Crashpads in Houston run around the $200 a month mark. Hotel rooms are around $50 a night.
EJET trips tend to be more efficient/productive than the CRJ, certainly the AA CRJs. Lots of 4 day trips hover around the 20 hour mark with some up to 24 hours. There are also 2-3 day trips and even some day trips still included in the mix. Mostly longer distance flying, but there are some short hops (SAT, AUS, MSY, DFW, MFE, MAF).
EJET training footprint in PHX is 1 week of indoc together with the CRJ. You then split off and do 3 weeks of systems, oral, then 4 days of Flight Procedures Training before heading to DFW (most likely) or YYZ (not so likely) for a couple of warm up sim sessions. After the warmups, you will get 8 sim sessions, a checkride and then LOFT. Once we start getting the new airplanes, we will probably see STL again for sim too.
There is no official home study program, but you will be doing a lot of off-hours studying.
Not much in the way of delays. Maybe a week between ground and sim and another week between sim and IOE if you're junior in class. Senior in class usually go straight through with only a couple of days in between segments.
Reserve is all short call with some ready reserve (airport reserve). 12 hour shifts for short call (either morning or afternoon), 8 hours for ready. You cannot pick up trips on reserve. Expect about 3 months on reserve on the EJET.
Crashpads in Houston run around the $200 a month mark. Hotel rooms are around $50 a night.
EJET trips tend to be more efficient/productive than the CRJ, certainly the AA CRJs. Lots of 4 day trips hover around the 20 hour mark with some up to 24 hours. There are also 2-3 day trips and even some day trips still included in the mix. Mostly longer distance flying, but there are some short hops (SAT, AUS, MSY, DFW, MFE, MAF).
EJET training footprint in PHX is 1 week of indoc together with the CRJ. You then split off and do 3 weeks of systems, oral, then 4 days of Flight Procedures Training before heading to DFW (most likely) or YYZ (not so likely) for a couple of warm up sim sessions. After the warmups, you will get 8 sim sessions, a checkride and then LOFT. Once we start getting the new airplanes, we will probably see STL again for sim too.
There is no official home study program, but you will be doing a lot of off-hours studying.
Not much in the way of delays. Maybe a week between ground and sim and another week between sim and IOE if you're junior in class. Senior in class usually go straight through with only a couple of days in between segments.
I'll be very junior, and very poor. Sounds like I won't be alone on finding cheap housing in IAH.
3 months on reserve does not seem too bad, if we fly lots and don't need a hotel too much, is short call assigned a RAP where you know early enough if your early or late?
Thanks
#2733
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
Thanks, is AQP for the initial training oral, maneuvers or is it FAA type then loft? Any information on training hotels? Driving a car out would be nice but if we get shipped else ware after a week it might not be worth it, maybe a rental car to grab food, any input?
I'll be very junior, and very poor. Sounds like I won't be alone on finding cheap housing in IAH.
3 months on reserve does not seem too bad, if we fly lots and don't need a hotel too much, is short call assigned a RAP where you know early enough if your early or late?
Thanks
I'll be very junior, and very poor. Sounds like I won't be alone on finding cheap housing in IAH.
3 months on reserve does not seem too bad, if we fly lots and don't need a hotel too much, is short call assigned a RAP where you know early enough if your early or late?
Thanks
One of the training hotels for sims in DFW has plenty of stuff within walking distance, the other has nothing.
#2734
The comfort inn in DFW tries to take good care of Mesa people. They will drive you places, but depends on the new owners spazzing out on how many miles the new vans have on them already.
#2736
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 49
Thanks I'm trying to save my pennies for IAH and life on reserve. Things I'll be paying for just so I don't freak when my first pay check is zero:
iPad & mount, uniforms, KCM, commuter airport parking, base parking, and do we really have to pay for soda water on the plane during flight?
Feel free to add to the list of miscellaneous charges I will incur by joining MESA?
iPad & mount, uniforms, KCM, commuter airport parking, base parking, and do we really have to pay for soda water on the plane during flight?
Feel free to add to the list of miscellaneous charges I will incur by joining MESA?
#2739
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 49
I want to get ahead of the program and get my uniforms tailored for my professional career while I still have some money. Unless, Mesa covers that with our indoc package. I figure I'll get a nice Mesa pen and a set of wings at least. I'm coming to Mesa because it's got a great training program and I want to be a good captain, someday. I'm hoping by year two Qol will improve, pay my dues and win the little battles.
Thanks for the tips..
Thanks for the tips..
#2740
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,623
You do realize there are several regionals with great training programs that will pay you significantly more than Mesa?
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