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Old 12-02-2015, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
I can't make this stuff up. I think I have him convinced it's a bad move, but being in Brazil he's pretty out of touch with the industry.
Wow...I would like to say I'm amazed. But this is Mesa we are talking about. Let him know there are plenty of Regionals around here to choose from.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
And about that amount have resigned in the last 6-7 weeks and attrition is picking up. There are 2 sides to this equation. For successful growth, hiring (and getting people through training successfully) has to outpace attrition.

A Mesa Capt. just told me that virtually every FO he flies with is putting apps out for a lateral move. Why wouldn't they with the incentives out there for type-rated FO's?
This is pretty much what I'm seeing--the only FOs planning on sticking around are:

1) People close to upgrade, and/or

2) People who live in Houston

The primary reason for leaving that I'm hearing from new hires isn't even pay--they want those flow agreements at places like Envoy/PDT. I can't blame them--that's built-in progression and job security as AA retirements skyrocket in the next 10-15 years.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Wow...I would like to say I'm amazed. But this is Mesa we are talking about. Let him know there are plenty of Regionals around here to choose from.
Why are you trolling a Mesa thread? Are you an Envoy recruiter?
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Old 12-02-2015, 06:28 PM
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Ummm, are you sure about those numbers? I can see the 27 starting today, but wasn't the last class on 12 Nov, and wasn't there only 3 of 5 that showed up?

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FYI...class that started today have 20 CRJ and 7 EJET FO's. Class that started last week has a total of 30.
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
This is pretty much what I'm seeing--the only FOs planning on sticking around are:



1) People close to upgrade, and/or



2) People who live in Houston



The primary reason for leaving that I'm hearing from new hires isn't even pay--they want those flow agreements at places like Envoy/PDT. I can't blame them--that's built-in progression and job security as AA retirements skyrocket in the next 10-15 years.

Didn't a Mesa captain leave for a regional with flow?



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Old 12-02-2015, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
Didn't a Mesa captain leave for a regional with flow?



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Yep, the last interview of his career, or so he says.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:08 PM
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Except for the last FO who I just flew with(fresh off IOE) every single one of the previous 4 were leaving and already had a job lined up, from corporate to charter, to other regionals. Even the guy off IOE was talking about going to a Charter op in a few months.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
And about that amount have resigned in the last 6-7 weeks and attrition is picking up. There are 2 sides to this equation. For successful growth, hiring (and getting people through training successfully) has to outpace attrition.



A Mesa Capt. just told me that virtually every FO he flies with is putting apps out for a lateral move.

I'm such a trend-setter. Lol!
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Old 12-03-2015, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
I'm such a trend-setter. Lol!
Only difference is; well, they went to airlines with a flow, you didn't.
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Only difference is; well, they went to airlines with a flow, you didn't.
Nah man he's at mainline
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