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Old 12-02-2015, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumbaclot
Well looks like EJET upgrades are about to get interesting. Not a single Ejet FO awarded onto it. All CRJ FOs that were awarded it and look at the split.

Seniority #1038 Junior CRJ Capt award
Seniority # 716 Junior EJET Capt award
Most in the 700s will hit 1k hrs in the next 1-3 months if they haven't yet. Guessing the bypass upgrades will stop or slow in the next couple awards and will stay in the 700s for a while.
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:59 PM
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Complete madness. Are those classes close to capacity, or are they able to take more?
I think around 30-35 is what they aim for.
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Not to derail the awesome Mesa thread, but I'd take a window/aisle combo single seat in a 145 any day over a middle econ seat in a 737/bus. Throw in UAL's horrible slimline seats, and it's not even up for debate. UAL's slimline seats are the true disgrace to the traveling public and I'd fly on almost any RJ (minus N407SW and maybe 200s in general) before I'd fly in a middle seat in the back of UAL if given the option. I had to fly in the middle seat on a UAL 320 the other day for a 2 hour flight and I thought my @$$ and legs were going to fall off by the end of it. And I'm short.
Agreed. And as far as CRJ200's go, is it me or are their APU's louder? I hate walking by them on the ramp.

Originally Posted by Bumbaclot
Well looks like EJET upgrades are about to get interesting. Not a single Ejet FO awarded onto it. All CRJ FOs that were awarded it and take note of the split as well.

Seniority #1038 Junior CRJ Capt award
Seniority # 716 Junior EJET Capt award
Huh. Obviously it can be done, but I'd think at least a few guys going into their first 121 Captain gig would opt to stay on the same equipment.
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Agreed. And as far as CRJ200's go, is it me or are their APU's louder? I hate walking by them on the ramp.



Huh. Obviously it can be done, but I'd think at least a few guys going into their first 121 Captain gig would opt to stay on the same equipment.
Um....the great majority of EJET CAs came from the CRJ and it is their first Captain gig. Nothing really new with this award other than it went a little more senior than the last one, but SB awards tend to jump around a little, especially in today's world.

Since the CRJ deliveries are done for a bit and the focus is back on the EJET, it's no surprise people are bidding it...they don't want to potentially be stuck on the bottom of the CRJ CA list.
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
FYI...class that started today have 20 CRJ and 7 EJET FO's. Class that started last week has a total of 30.
And about that amount have resigned in the last 6-7 weeks and attrition is picking up. There are 2 sides to this equation. For successful growth, hiring (and getting people through training successfully) has to outpace attrition.

A Mesa Capt. just told me that virtually every FO he flies with is putting apps out for a lateral move. Why wouldn't they with the incentives out there for type-rated FO's?
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Um....the great majority of EJET CAs came from the CRJ and it is their first Captain gig. Nothing really new with this award other than it went a little more senior than the last one, but SB awards tend to jump around a little, especially in today's world.

Since the CRJ deliveries are done for a bit and the focus is back on the EJET, it's no surprise people are bidding it...they don't want to potentially be stuck on the bottom of the CRJ CA list.
Sure, of course it's been going on for a while. Just thought at least one would stay CRJ. That's all.
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumbaclot
Well looks like EJET upgrades are about to get interesting. Not a single Ejet FO awarded onto it. All CRJ FOs that were awarded it and take note of the split as well.

Seniority #1038 Junior CRJ Capt award
Seniority # 716 Junior EJET Capt award
Seniority #1038 = May, 2015 hire.

That's a 7 month upgrade on the CRJ and a 18 month upgrade on the E175.
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumbaclot
Well looks like EJET upgrades are about to get interesting. Not a single Ejet FO awarded onto it. All CRJ FOs that were awarded it and take note of the split as well.

Seniority #1038 Junior CRJ Capt award
Seniority # 716 Junior EJET Capt award
I find it insane that they're still holding back EJet FOs from CRJ CA training awards--those dudes have been getting CA pay while flying/bidding EJet FO for months now (to include that #1038 junior IAD CA award mentioned above--the award says "on holdback EJet FO" or something like that).

Pretty sweet deal for those guys! But kind of insane when you consider the fact there are EJet FO holdbacks--getting CRJ CA pay--who now have the seniority to upgrade on the EJet (which would be a much cheaper and quicker upgrade than training a CRJ FO to become an EJet CA).

I really can't think of any reason why they're still holding back those EJet FOs on Captain pay (or not letting them re-bid EJet CA).
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
My buddy in Brazil was just offered a job via email, not even a phone interview. Told him he could just show up to class. Wow.
Are you serious??
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Are you serious??
I can't make this stuff up. I think I have him convinced it's a bad move, but being in Brazil he's pretty out of touch with the industry.
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