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#2641
#2643
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
Also, not sure about prior121, but I'll gladly take my $7k 3rd year CA paycheck for December (flying more hours to get it than you do)...because, hour-for-hour, flying the EJet is insanely more enjoyable than getting banged around in a 50-seater, dealing with your ratchety falling-apart planes and all of your performance problems, and having to walk in shame hunched-over to a chemical toilet past a bunch of passengers who hold me in the same regard as a trash truck driver--because that's what 135s/145s are: trash that needs to be disposed of.
Not attacking you personally--just saying I've done my fair share of 50-seat "higher payrate" flying and, for me personally, I'll gladly fly more hours on vastly better equipment to get the same check as you.
135s/145s/CRJ-200s are a disgrace to the traveling public and I'm still shocked at the fact they're in service under the brand name of any US legacy airline.
#2645
Actually funny story, a few weeks ago I had to dead head on a 200 from DFW to IAH and even with that short flight and an alternate they were still 500 pounds over weight. I have no experience flying the 200 but that just blew my mind.
#2646
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
These large 50 seater fleet carriers may have better pay and benefits but they aren't exactly knocking it out of the park in terms of passenger comfort and experience. It is hard to find satisfaction in what you do when costumers loathe your product and are practically held hostage in a sweat tube, as orchestrated by mainline.
Mesa's problems are the exact opposite. We provide a much better experience but our employees suffer the consequences of a spinless union and a subpar contract.
Last edited by tinman1; 12-01-2015 at 08:19 PM.
#2647
It happens quite frequently on SKW 200s out of PHX and LAX when there is weather. Last month in PHX I saw an instance of them being weight limited to carrying 45 pax to PSP. It's only an hour away...
These large 50 seater fleet carriers may have better pay and benefits but they aren't exactly knocking it out of the park in terms of passenger comfort and experience. It is hard to find satisfaction in what you do when costumers loathe your product and are practically held hostage in a sweat tube, as orchestrated by mainline. Mesa's problems are the exact opposite. Better equipment but below average pay.
These large 50 seater fleet carriers may have better pay and benefits but they aren't exactly knocking it out of the park in terms of passenger comfort and experience. It is hard to find satisfaction in what you do when costumers loathe your product and are practically held hostage in a sweat tube, as orchestrated by mainline. Mesa's problems are the exact opposite. Better equipment but below average pay.
#2648
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,624
That's what they said about the bro for the last 20 years. You guys talk like you're the only company flying Ejets. You're just the only ones flying them for sub-50 seat wages.
#2649
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: men without hats
Posts: 371
I don't preach down to you. I can't solve your problems. What I can do, however, is point out how many at your company complain about not having a contract and poor FO pay in one breath while cheerfully advertising quick upgrades and shiny under-wing jets in another. It's counter-productive. The only reason TSA gave away as much as it did as quickly as it did this time was because it started to feel the pinch of shrinking classes. If you can't recruit with SJS, you have to do it with dollar signs.
#2650
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
Mesa WILL eventually pay more. Supply and demand economics will take care of that. Buying ejets and not having pilots to fly them will force their hand very quickly.
And yes, I can still see 18-24 month upgrades here. More ejets and most likely CRJ's with our increasingly high attrition rate will do that. If a new hire doesn't want much reserve, they should definitely go to the ejet.
And yes, I can still see 18-24 month upgrades here. More ejets and most likely CRJ's with our increasingly high attrition rate will do that. If a new hire doesn't want much reserve, they should definitely go to the ejet.
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