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Old 11-09-2015, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
They are not getting new flying, but that's because they have higher costs than say, SkyWest. It's been a place people actually wanted to work at, as opposed to being the only place that wold take you. When you bring up "bottom of the barrel", people instantly think of places like Great Lakes, Mesa, GoJet, etc. These are places that have a terrible reputation within the industry. I get what you are trying to say, but there's probably a better way to deliver your message.
Yea, I get what you are saying, for example Horizon is by no means a bad place, I was just speaking in terms of job stability more than anything. But let's wait and see what contract actually gets voted in before we count Mesa as a bad place. It's easy to say one place is better than the other based solely on money, but also equipment, bases, upgrade times, and longevity of the contract with mainline are all important factors to consider if you don't wan't to wind up furloughed.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:53 PM
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My turd is better than your turd because it comes in a pretty little box with a bow on it!

Jesus Christ, grow up!
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stratapilot
My turd is better than your turd because it comes in a pretty little box with a bow on it!

Jesus Christ, grow up!
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:11 PM
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All airlines suck. This industry as a whole is a terrible operation. There's nothing more to argue.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:11 AM
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Mesa has been around the longest in one form or another, and I think Johnny O came up with the Fee For Departure model. The only thing that is going to sink Mesa is pilots leaving.
One thing that never gets talked about, at a regional, is how management treats you. Right now, and since I've been here, have had a great working relationship. They are not pricks to us, the training department is common sense and not dicks, everyone is nice to the pilot group. The only hostility comes in the form of willingness to negotiate a better compensation and benefits package. Again, I'm not worried, they will do something when they have to, to keep the doors open.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:18 AM
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I took a look at the Commutair CPP. It's nice to have in the back pocket, but I can't see people leaving other regionals to go there for it. The additional 40 planes, yes, but not for the CPP.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
Mesa has been around the longest in one form or another, and I think Johnny O came up with the Fee For Departure model. The only thing that is going to sink Mesa is pilots leaving.
One thing that never gets talked about, at a regional, is how management treats you. Right now, and since I've been here, have had a great working relationship. They are not pricks to us, the training department is common sense and not dicks, everyone is nice to the pilot group. The only hostility comes in the form of willingness to negotiate a better compensation and benefits package. Again, I'm not worried, they will do something when they have to, to keep the doors open.
I'll summarize. "They are really cool except when it comes to paying me appropriately for the time I spend making the company money." You know, the only important thing.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'll summarize. "They are really cool except when it comes to paying me appropriately for the time I spend making the company money." You know, the only important thing.
Pretty much. However things would be a million times worse if we didn't have a great Chief pilot in DFW.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by giggity37
Flying old beat up dashes with horrible bases sounds like great fun.
Bottom line it's more money. You've demonstrated you're willing to fly the shiniest equipment while qualifying for government assistance...
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