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Old 11-02-2015, 11:12 AM
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My source in training says only 9 people showed up to training last class "FACT".
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Old 11-02-2015, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
My source in training says only 9 people showed up to training last class "FACT".
And how many people left? My global number only gets smaller when another CA leaves, and well... A lot of guys are leaving! Also, it seams Mesa can never get above 1200 pilots, and I will not be surprised when the most junior person is only 950 to 1000
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Old 11-02-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xjtgrunt
Space has been allocated for ships 331-350
Are we getting a few more planes than they've said?
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Old 11-02-2015, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 20sx
Are we getting a few more planes than they've said?
Only if Mesa can staff them. Regardless of the agreement that gets signed.

If pilots aren't given a reason to join Mesa, then there is nobody to fly the planes. So the planes will not come. Growth ends.

Do you see how the former model of recruiting will no longer work?
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Old 11-02-2015, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
I think many will jump.
I mean, 2nd year YV pay is less than 1st year OO pay and OO gives you a bonus for being type rated.
Hell even GoJet 1st year pay plus $15k bonus is more than YV 2nd year.
Or Trans States with better contract and a bonus; same with Compass. Better pay and an additional type rating and signing bonus.
YV needs to come up with something quick or they'll lose pilots right and left.
Don't forget bases--which are a very strong incentive for junior FOs (and even junior CAs) to jump ship. Looking at Skywest and Compass's West Coast bases makes me salivate.

I've talked to several FOs who plan on jumping ship for Skywest/Compass if all the EJets go to Houston--simple calculation of pay + upgrade expectation + not having a 3-4 hour commute to where they want to live. I'm kind of shocked that anyone with less than a year on property, who lives anywhere west of El Paso/Denver is still here.
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Old 11-02-2015, 01:29 PM
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i just woke up from a dream where I got a call as a new hire FO, the Mesa guy on the other end of the phone said they had raised firts year pay to $51 an hour..thought I would share
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:24 PM
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Mesa is about to have a HUGE staffing problem. People would be foolish to go to Mesa with their current pay!
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
My source in training says only 9 people showed up to training last class "FACT".
Another recent class had 21 of 25. I don't think it's quite so dire.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xjtgrunt
Space has been allocated for ships 331-350
What does this mean?
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:41 PM
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