CBreezy

Listen, first of all, that's my go-to insult. I claimed it. You can't have it.

Second, if you've been at an airline for less than a year, you have no idea what goes on within your union. Even more important, ALPA National doesn't control what goes on at each property. So, you should be mad and frustrated with your shop. Maybe that'll get you to volunteer or try to make a difference. Until then, you're just whining and I have no desire to listen to your opinion. Put yourself in their shoes and then see how many people think you do nothing.

24/48

roflmfao!!

Systemized

What's the most junior DFW captain line holder DOH?

Xdashdriver

Feb 2014 for the November bid.

20sx

It's amazing the amount of people who complain about the union at Mesa but do absolutely nothing to change it. Half of the MEC is about to change, I wonder how many people have put out suggestions or stepped up for the positions?

ScottyDo

That's like saying you can't criticize the president of the United States unless you have run for public office before lol.

Harpyr

Keep in mind that the ALPA money spent on MAG pilots is likely more than MAG pilots pay back in to ALPA. In essence, larger airlines subsidize us. While I'll be one of the first to take shots at them, I'll also be one of the first to defend some of the benefits we get back.

iFlyRC

Is it not a conflict of interest having ALPA represent regionals? We are taking the brunt of subsidizing low air fares, and higher main line pay, something ALPA has no issues with.

cowsgomoo

Lots of union love and hate going on. I stopped by only to say this:

It's a mistake to form an "us versus them" mentality from the standpoint of a regular line guy relative to his/her union. If this is your opinion, what you haven't yet figured out is that YOU are this union. It is only as good as you and the people who comprise it. Yes, "they" get your dues one way or the other, but it stays in the family so to speak and serves you in ways that most people don't completely understand. The heavy lifting, the contracts you get, the programs that protect your job, are done by people exactly like you who hold the same airline job as you. Anyone can be a union volunteer, but it's not easy, often thankless, and (for most people) involves sacrifice.

I don't have a horse in the Mesa race anymore, but I used to. I spent 16 years at Mesa and spent 10 of them as a volunteer, so I would love to see the younger generation of Mesa folks fully understand what the union is all about. The short of it is that each Mesa pilot is the Mesa union. When you complain, you're really saying that you, yourself, are doing a bad job. If you want a better airline, and there are dozens of ways to make it better, get involved.

20sx

Very true! Sorry, wasn't really directed at you (poor thread placement on my part I just fly with a lot of pilots that complain but when I ask who they're voting in for our new reps they say they didn't vote (picking IAD reps). The final vote is going on now, but I don't expect a lot of participation.