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Old 10-12-2015, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SubwaySandwich
I'd say the likely hood is high. Especially since they didn't announce any additional growth till what a few days ago?
Most new hires I fly with aren't washouts but were very junior (6-12 months online) FOs at stagnant companies (RAH, XJT, Eagle) and saw no future there, usually live in one of our bases; so they saw the quick upgrade and being home based as a big plus.
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Old 10-12-2015, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SubwaySandwich
I'd say the likely hood is high. Especially since they didn't announce any additional growth till what a few days ago?
I know of at least 3-4 Mesa washouts now at XJet/Skywest/PSA. It's a two-way street and everyone needs bodies.

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Old 10-12-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Latest newhire class has several air wisky guys, XJT, PSA, Piedmont, RAH/S5, Skywest, go jet, and silver. Don't know why, but people keep making lateral moves here, yet we lose a few to lateral moves as well.
Thanks, that's actually kind of funny because I heard Mesa FO's are leaving for SkyWest, Compass...etc. Don't really understand why people keep leaving one for another.
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Old 10-12-2015, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by porkins89
Thanks, that's actually kind of funny because I heard Mesa FO's are leaving for SkyWest, Compass...etc. Don't really understand why people keep leaving one for another.
Because that's the whole point of the whipsaw that management keeps propagating. The flying intentionally gets shifted between regionals with the hope that guys/gals will jump ship and start over at the next flavor of the week on year one pay. Keeps overhead low and lines the pockets of those you and I will most likely never meet.
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Old 10-12-2015, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Because that's the whole point of the whipsaw that management keeps propagating. The flying intentionally gets shifted between regionals with the hope that guys/gals will jump ship and start over at the next flavor of the week on year one pay. Keeps overhead low and lines the pockets of those you and I will most likely never meet.
Good point, and it still amazes me that some people getting in to all of this don't bother to get themselves informed. I feel that's has to have something to do with what you are saying. The information is out there. These forums aren't hard to navigate with the search function lol
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Old 10-14-2015, 10:19 AM
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Brian did the classy thing by bowing out, but did we really need another lecture from him in that email? I would have figured by now that these guys would learn that patronizing us and lecturing in every email is getting old. You are stepping down because you couldn't recognize the pilot groups long term goals, so why are you still telling us that getting rid of this MEC will only hurt our goals. Its time to stop protecting guys like AH, and get some fresh faces in place.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:03 AM
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And how many of these are washouts from other training departments?
I know one from SkyWest was.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cleareddirect13
Brian did the classy thing by bowing out, but did we really need another lecture from him in that email? I would have figured by now that these guys would learn that patronizing us and lecturing in every email is getting old. You are stepping down because you couldn't recognize the pilot groups long term goals, so why are you still telling us that getting rid of this MEC will only hurt our goals. Its time to stop protecting guys like AH, and get some fresh faces in place.
I felt the same way, I was like when are they gonna stop talking to us like we are some stupid kids or something.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
I felt the same way, I was like when are they gonna stop talking to us like we are some stupid kids or something.
My thoughts exactly. He basically said "sorry not sorry."

The tone of that email should simply embolden anyone seeking to clean house in this ALPA chapter. We an MEC that actually represents the majority of the pilot group.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
My thoughts exactly. He basically said "sorry not sorry."

The tone of that email should simply embolden anyone seeking to clean house in this ALPA chapter. We an MEC that actually represents the majority of the pilot group.
Well the tone for the last 6 months has been compleatly wrong. Making excuses left and right for the company, talking down to the pilots, so on and so on. No other alpa carrier has had this bad of a tone ever. Just because you have a lot of time and work put in a contract does not mean you defend a bad ta
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