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Old 03-24-2014, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
I've always wondered how much if this goes on...regionals telling majors "don't hire our pilots". Pretty sure it's illegal, but maybe not due to the contractual relationship between the two parties?
I doubt they actually tell them to not hire their pilots. It just comes down to a major not wanting to cripple their own feed when they could harm a competitors. Eagle guys have historically had a tough time getting hired at AA outside the flow.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:18 AM
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I doubt they actually tell them to not hire their pilots. It just comes down to a major not wanting to cripple their own feed when they could harm a competitors. Eagle guys have historically had a tough time getting hired at AA outside the flow.
I agree, I always wanted to fly for AA and back in 2001 I had an interview date set for Eagle. I was told by many mainline and regional friends that it would be hard to get on with AA if I worked for Eagle. Anyway 9/11 happened before the interview and I got a job flying cargo with airplanes nicknamed "beer-can". I had a Pinnacle/Endeavor jump seat captain back in October, she said they were losing 10+ a month to Airways. Considering Mesa has probably lost only 10 all year those numbers seam pretty offset. I know there is a clause in the App process for Airways that a initial or upgrade training event is required within the last 5 years, maybe that knocks some of our folks out of qualification do to the 5 year stagnation. But we have lost very few folks to Airways and I know many friends that have had their App in for years and they are not getting the interview call. To me it seams that there is some cross feed hiring going on.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by skillett
I agree, I always wanted to fly for AA and back in 2001 I had an interview date set for Eagle. I was told by many mainline and regional friends that it would be hard to get on with AA if I worked for Eagle. Anyway 9/11 happened before the interview and I got a job flying cargo with airplanes nicknamed "beer-can". I had a Pinnacle/Endeavor jump seat captain back in October, she said they were losing 10+ a month to Airways. Considering Mesa has probably lost only 10 all year those numbers seam pretty offset. I know there is a clause in the App process for Airways that a initial or upgrade training event is required within the last 5 years, maybe that knocks some of our folks out of qualification do to the 5 year stagnation. But we have lost very few folks to Airways and I know many friends that have had their App in for years and they are not getting the interview call. To me it seams that there is some cross feed hiring going on.
How many Captains actually apply? Captain attrition has been -0- for the past year.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats
Oh you mean the 30 Ejets that Mesa can't get approved by the FAA, when are the proving runs? Also, mesa's growth relies strictly on mainlines willingness to finance aircraft for you... When it comes down financing a fleet of 737-900s or keep on financing AC for credit inept companies, the music will once again stop... Mesa seems to go in these waves, hire hire hire then furlough and have their fleet taken and placed elsewhere. After all, Mesa doesn't own those new birds, mainline does...

Food for thought, TPIC, did matter at one point but not anymore... The game is changing and yes upgrade times will fall even at the most stagnant regional.
You don't know the certification schedule so that means they can't get them approved? Adding aircraft is something Mesa is very good at. In fact, Sky failed their mini evacuation so many times they CSET team had to be called which promoted a call to Mesa to get advice on passing.

Let's see how cocky you are when the CR2's start getting parked in large numbers.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:40 AM
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How is that possible after being on property for 6 months? Thats like the most junior captain instantly becoming a check airmen.
So you're questioning the abilities of the recruiting team that works for the only regional that's filling it's classes? You just failed your IQ test.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CSD2000
How many Captains actually apply? Captain attrition has been -0- for the past year.
I don't know company wide but I know of at least 10 in CLT. 2 have been hired out of CLT this last fall that I know of. One had just gone through re-upgrade training. I know that the majority of our senior captains don't have their Apps in but you would think some of the guys I know that do would get the interview call at least. Just seams like Airways is being carefully selective with who they interview at Mesa. But I know what your thinking, about 350 of our seniority list have no desire to start over and commute. But I'm sure Endeavor has a lot of senior folks that will not leave as well.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CSD2000

Let's see how cocky you are when the CR2's start getting parked in large numbers.
With the amount of orders for both the 175 and MRJ, I am not too worried about 200's going away. Either way, I won't be at OO this time next year. Already in a pool my friend.
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Originally Posted by CSD2000
So you're questioning the abilities of the recruiting team that works for the only regional that's filling it's classes? You just failed your IQ test.
The only regional filling classes? Really? And for the record an IQ test is not an accurate way to measure how smart someone is.
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Crickets.....
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:27 AM
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Crickets.....
Did you see JO's email...Guys are down in Brazil getting the first 175. Good looking bird.

But I thought Skywest is taking Mesa's delivery spots, right Slats?
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