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Old 12-12-2013, 04:39 PM
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The trick is past practice and what the company is willing to do. Consider the 145's when we had them. They were only 50 seat. Correct me if I'm wrong, but CRJ CA's were unable to bid 145, but 145 CA could bid CRJ. The CRJ was considered higher paying equipment. The company will seek cost savings with bidding aircraft so I'm guessing CRJ CA's will not be able to bid 175 just as explained above due to number of training events.

There is a GIR however since the company believes they can pay vacation and rsv at 50 seat rates when a pilot is based on the mainland where 50 seaters do not exist. As I've heard, they can't have their cake and eat it too. They will have to cave on something, but right now it's hard telling what/where. Stay tuned.....
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MALB
I ran into the current class at Mesa and well the night before the smell of alcohol was pouring into the lobby. Lets just say it didn't look good at 9PM for a 7AM start the next day.
How do you know they bad class in the morning?

How do you know it was the current Mesa class?

Maybe they were passing thru after coming back from dinner with ALPA?

Maybe they were off the next day?

Maybe they were upgrades?

Maybe class hasn't started yet and they don't know the rules.

Kinda a lame broad statement to make.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slats
Food for thought, getting to mainline is getting harder an harder as regionals vote in concessions to fly larger aircraft. United is parking 757s, American is ordering 175s and more 900s, Delta is looking for carriers that fly 175s. Why??? Because we're cheap labor!!! You'll fly the same routes compared to mainline for 1/4 of the cost!! wake up, do some research. Retirements will spur hiring but hell, at this rate mainline can furlough their guys have them rehired and PSA or Mesa and staff those RJs that are flying ALL domestic flights. All while mainline focuses it's fleet on International flying. Get a clue
Your scenario ignores the fact that it's not the contracts that regional carriers sign with the pilots that determines where those airplanes go, it's the scope clauses within the contracts that the majors have their own pilot groups.

As long as mainline groups continue to take back scope your scenario is unlikely.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:25 PM
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Your scenario ignores the fact that it's not the contracts that regional carriers sign with the pilots that determines where those airplanes go, it's the scope clauses within the contracts that the majors have their own pilot groups.

As long as mainline groups continue to take back scope your scenario is unlikely.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
How do you know they bad class in the morning?

How do you know it was the current Mesa class?

Maybe they were passing thru after coming back from dinner with ALPA?

Maybe they were off the next day?

Maybe they were upgrades?

Maybe class hasn't started yet and they don't know the rules.

Kinda a lame broad statement to make.
Because I happen to know two of the guys in the class who had told me that they had class the next day starting at 7AM.

I'm not trying to get the trolls started here, it just seemed that this round of new hires were not the best to have which is unfortunate.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MALB
Because I happen to know two of the guys in the class who had told me that they had class the next day starting at 7AM.

I'm not trying to get the trolls started here, it just seemed that this round of new hires were not the best to have which is unfortunate.
Keep it to yourself.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:32 PM
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Keep it to yourself.
If you don't like it, you don't like it.

Back on topic, anyone think that some of the E175s that AA just ordered will go to Mesa out of CLT? Yes I know that AA's goal is to get them to Eagle, but if that fails, it fails. Obviously the deployment would probably be after the current E-Jets that Mesa is getting for UA have begun deployment.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MALB
If you don't like it, you don't like it.

Back on topic, anyone think that some of the E175s that AA just ordered will go to Mesa out of CLT? Yes I know that AA's goal is to get them to Eagle, but if that fails, it fails. Obviously the deployment would probably be after the current E-Jets that Mesa is getting for UA have begun deployment.
Haven't really followed, but when so your Ejets come on property? And how many? Seems like more could fit after 2015.... They are going to ask eagle for a lot. If they don't play ball with douggie they'll find a new home.
 
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Haven't really followed, but when so your Ejets come on property? And how many? Seems like more could fit after 2015.... They are going to ask eagle for a lot. If they don't play ball with douggie they'll find a new home.
I believe they come either Feb or April of 2014. As far as the first actual revenue flight, pretty sure that is TBA.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MALB
Because I happen to know two of the guys in the class who had told me that they had class the next day starting at 7AM.

I'm not trying to get the trolls started here, it just seemed that this round of new hires were not the best to have which is unfortunate.
And you let them go without a good spanking and lecture on morality? You sir are part of the problem. Be sure to wear your white robe the next time you cast judgement on an entire group of professionals based on a "seems like" statement...just sayin.
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