Mesa
07-21-2015, 01:40 PM
#9021
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
If by "nesting place" you mean "a place to upgrade as fast as possible to leave the regionals forever" yeah--guilty as charged.
07-21-2015, 01:54 PM
#9022
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,498
Let me know how that works out for you "Bro".
07-21-2015, 03:16 PM
#9023
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Cl 65
Posts: 15
OK prove it.
Now you attack me and claim I don't work at Mesa? You go on right ahead and tell yourself that. Mesa can prove what it itself is without you guys constant intervening, self appointed Gaurdians of Mesa's Galaxy. Let the truth stand on its' own, if I or other are lying it will come out. There really is no need to start bashing everyone that has comments you guys disagree with, unless J.O. Is paying you, which I doubt.
Reading your comments sound like sweeping generalizations rather than concise points. You been at the training center recently or work there? Why would prior 121's and others all of a sudden start lying about failing out of Mesa?
07-21-2015, 03:25 PM
#9024
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Cl 65
Posts: 15
The whole point is you really have no clue what happened in all those meetings, you are hearing stuff second and third hand, so it it grossly unreliable. Making assumptions and "warning" people about stuff based on very unreliable information just makes you look naive and gullible.
It makes no sense that Mesa is "thinning the herd" with hold backs on the EJET and several CRJs still to deliver and hiring still going on. As for the large number of reserves in DFW, that's easy to explain: they have temporarily drawn down the flying in DFW until some of the MX and ground handling issues get sorted out. With the multiple long emails from the company about that, it's no secret.
It makes no sense that Mesa is "thinning the herd" with hold backs on the EJET and several CRJs still to deliver and hiring still going on. As for the large number of reserves in DFW, that's easy to explain: they have temporarily drawn down the flying in DFW until some of the MX and ground handling issues get sorted out. With the multiple long emails from the company about that, it's no secret.
However, I have learned not to just dismiss multiple accusations dealing with the same line of thought. Now if someone would have told me a year ago Mesa was unfair and I was washed beacause..... I would have said oh ok, and what I have seen making it to the line here I would doubted that story very much. Now, not so much.
07-21-2015, 03:32 PM
#9025
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 233
Let's just see what happens. I wasn't there on those meetings, true, but I also wasn't around when those women were accusing Bill Cosby.
However, I have learned not to just dismiss multiple accusations dealing with the same line of thought. Now if someone would have told me a year ago Mesa was unfair and I was washed beacause..... I would have said oh ok, and what I have seen making it to the line here I would doubted that story very much. Now, not so much.
However, I have learned not to just dismiss multiple accusations dealing with the same line of thought. Now if someone would have told me a year ago Mesa was unfair and I was washed beacause..... I would have said oh ok, and what I have seen making it to the line here I would doubted that story very much. Now, not so much.
07-21-2015, 03:33 PM
#9026
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 580
Why is it EVERY TIME someone says something negative about our company you, X driver and the cheer squad get on here and start attacking or calling people a liar? You have DIRECT knowledge of this stuff?
OK prove it.
Now you attack me and claim I don't work at Mesa? You go on right ahead and tell yourself that. Mesa can prove what it itself is without you guys constant intervening, self appointed Gaurdians of Mesa's Galaxy. Let the truth stand on its' own, if I or other are lying it will come out. There really is no need to start bashing everyone that has comments you guys disagree with, unless J.O. Is paying you, which I doubt.
Reading your comments sound like sweeping generalizations rather than concise points. You been at the training center recently or work there? Why would prior 121's and others all of a sudden start lying about failing out of Mesa?
OK prove it.
Now you attack me and claim I don't work at Mesa? You go on right ahead and tell yourself that. Mesa can prove what it itself is without you guys constant intervening, self appointed Gaurdians of Mesa's Galaxy. Let the truth stand on its' own, if I or other are lying it will come out. There really is no need to start bashing everyone that has comments you guys disagree with, unless J.O. Is paying you, which I doubt.
Reading your comments sound like sweeping generalizations rather than concise points. You been at the training center recently or work there? Why would prior 121's and others all of a sudden start lying about failing out of Mesa?
I cannot prove to you who i am on a public forum nor can you prove who you are. Let's just leave it at that. For someone who has just joined this thread and posts accusations and lies is ridiculously false.
YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THE NEW HIRES WHO FAILED OUT!!!
You come on here blaming everyone else for your own shortcomings. Get over it and yourself. Time for some self evaluation. Or you just don't have what it takes to be an ATP. Again I ask you just to move on.
07-21-2015, 04:58 PM
#9028
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 236
Have you ever wondered why our bidding closes on the 17th, but we don't get our lines until the 23rd? It's a computer system, it can give everyone their lines within seconds of the bid window closing.
And most real airlines do that, THEN they take FO's off trips that were assigned to an IOE captain, and pay them to stay home...
That is soooooooooo stupid, instead they could run the lines hundreds of times, and "PRE AWARD" those lines for IOE, so no one gets kicked and pay protected, they just get to sit reserve instead!
PSA management obviously is very stupid, as they pay FO's to stay at home instead of being on reserve, and that CRAZY thing about SAP, allowing pilots to drop their schedules, then re-pick them back up at premium pay? Mesa is wayyyyyy too smart to allow that dumb **** to go on here.
07-21-2015, 05:46 PM
#9029
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Joined APC: May 2012
Position: 206
Posts: 573
Real airlines aren't as clever as Mesa...
PSA management obviously is very stupid, as they pay FO's to stay at home instead of being on reserve, and that CRAZY thing about SAP, allowing pilots to drop their schedules, then re-pick them back up at premium pay? Mesa is wayyyyyy too smart to allow that dumb **** to go on here.
PSA management obviously is very stupid, as they pay FO's to stay at home instead of being on reserve, and that CRAZY thing about SAP, allowing pilots to drop their schedules, then re-pick them back up at premium pay? Mesa is wayyyyyy too smart to allow that dumb **** to go on here.
PSA displaces for OE and buys you off but you're on reserve during the trip.
Personally, I prefer Mesa's system of withholding trips/lines for OE.
07-21-2015, 06:15 PM
#9030
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 688
It takes more then seconds but it doesn't take as long as you think. If you ever talk to the scheduling people (alpa not Mesa) they will be more then happy to explain. Was told if you condense actual work time down its about a 2-2&1/2 day process.
Real airlines aren't as clever as Mesa...
Have you ever wondered why our bidding closes on the 17th, but we don't get our lines until the 23rd? It's a computer system, it can give everyone their lines within seconds of the bid window closing.
And most real airlines do that, THEN they take FO's off trips that were assigned to an IOE captain, and pay them to stay home...
That is soooooooooo stupid, instead they could run the lines hundreds of times, and "PRE AWARD" those lines for IOE, so no one gets kicked and pay protected, they just get to sit reserve instead!
PSA management obviously is very stupid, as they pay FO's to stay at home instead of being on reserve, and that CRAZY thing about SAP, allowing pilots to drop their schedules, then re-pick them back up at premium pay? Mesa is wayyyyyy too smart to allow that dumb **** to go on here.
Have you ever wondered why our bidding closes on the 17th, but we don't get our lines until the 23rd? It's a computer system, it can give everyone their lines within seconds of the bid window closing.
And most real airlines do that, THEN they take FO's off trips that were assigned to an IOE captain, and pay them to stay home...
That is soooooooooo stupid, instead they could run the lines hundreds of times, and "PRE AWARD" those lines for IOE, so no one gets kicked and pay protected, they just get to sit reserve instead!
PSA management obviously is very stupid, as they pay FO's to stay at home instead of being on reserve, and that CRAZY thing about SAP, allowing pilots to drop their schedules, then re-pick them back up at premium pay? Mesa is wayyyyyy too smart to allow that dumb **** to go on here.
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