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Old 12-07-2013, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DLAJ77
My buddy had a 30 hour layover in the middle of a trip couple weeks back. This was considered a day off. Mesa is still a complete **** hole. I almost feel bad for all the suckers working over there.
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I'm calling BS on this one--unless the 30-hour layover was in domicile, it wasn't considered a day off, and if it was, all they need to do is call scheduling or a chief pilot and get it re-coded.
Nope DLA77 is right about the 30 hr. layovers. However I've heard it interpreted in two different ways. I think it was just part of the pairing not considered a day off. I did run into a guy who had gotten screwed tho' a reserve i believe?

The layover however was a common occurrence on the NOV. bid with at least 1 appearing on every bid. Great places like cle, mem, Sbn etc.... It was just complete inefficient crap. Mesa is not what it was...6-7 yrs ago but it's still the same mgmt. Team, same people in the "crystal palace," same crap being passed down for the union and the pilots to sort out. Maintenance team at mesa is suffering, plus pay and contract protections are still completely inadequate.

Btw the "travelalliance" company doing the hotels.... Holy sh*t do they s*ck!

J/O still knows and still does what he does. No changes.

No sugar coating from me.

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Old 12-07-2013, 07:25 PM
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I heard 10 at most, not at least.
Meant just 10 confirmed. Still rumor of 20. Not confirmed.
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Originally Posted by FerrisBluer
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Originally Posted by DLAJ77


My buddy had a 30 hour layover in the middle of a trip couple weeks back. This was considered a day off. Mesa is still a complete **** hole. I almost feel bad for all the suckers working over there.





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I'm calling BS on this one--unless the 30-hour layover was in domicile, it wasn't considered a day off, and if it was, all they need to do is call scheduling or a chief pilot and get it re-coded.




Nope DLA77 is right about the 30 hr. layovers. However I've heard it interpreted in two different ways. I think it was just part of the pairing not considered a day off. I did run into a guy who had gotten screwed tho' a reserve i believe?

The layover however was a common occurrence on the NOV. bid with at least 1 appearing on every bid. Great places like cle, mem, Sbn etc.... It was just complete inefficient crap. Mesa is not what it was...6-7 yrs ago but it's still the same mgmt. Team, same people in the "crystal palace," same crap being passed down for the union and the pilots to sort out. Maintenance team at mesa is suffering, plus pay and contract protections are still completely inadequate.

Btw the "travelalliance" company doing the hotels.... Holy sh*t do they s*ck!

J/O still knows and still does what he does. No changes.

No sugar coating from me.

You guys honestly don't think this kinda **** isn't happening at all the other regionals?

I've had maybe 1 max hotel problem here. I had hotel problems weekly at republic. Like standing at the front desk for an hour as Republic crew scheduling tries to figure out why the hotel isn't getting the fax authorization.

I call bull**** as a long layover being recoded as a day off. Out of domicile that just can't happen.

Maybe the guy got screwed and couldn't commute home cuz he only had 24hrs off between trips because of a long layover in a parring.
That sounds more likely.
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Originally Posted by DLAJ77
My buddy had a 30 hour layover in the middle of a trip couple weeks back. This was considered a day off. Mesa is still a complete **** hole. I almost feel bad for all the suckers working over there.
Yes still ran by the three headed devil. But our contract does not allow a day off out of base. They can bring you down to 11 days off which is the min, but those must be full days off in base (12pm-12pm)whether they dead head you back or what. But when I was in Hawaii Mesa tried blatant contract violations and told me to "Grieve It". So I wouldn't put anything past them. They are so short after giving the VLOA that I have been JRA'd twice this month already. Know your contract and tell them to suck it, in a very polite way. hehe

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Originally Posted by prior121
parring.
*Pairing

Haha, got you back!
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by skillett
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parring.




*Pairing

Haha, got you back!
Haha! Damn iPhone.
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Originally Posted by skillett
(12pm-12pm)
I think you meant 12:00am to 12:00am

Years ago, and not sure if it has changed, they could go into your day off as far as 2:00am before they had to give you a new one.

I find the 30 hour overnight considered as a day off worrisome. I really want to disbelieve this story, but I'm having trouble completely disbelieving it. I REALLY hope they aren't turning to these tactics again.
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Originally Posted by skillett
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parring.




*Pairing

Haha, got you back!
After a bit of dictionary research when referring to a crew member's schedule.

"Parring" is the correct form.
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Originally Posted by prior121
After a bit of dictionary research when referring to a crew member's schedule.

"Parring" is the correct form.
As in schedules are up to par? More like double bogeys
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Put down the Mad-Dog prior121...it's all good bro the Garlic sticks will be here soon
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