Mesa
07-06-2015, 12:44 AM
#8821
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However, lawyers and arbitrators do not read contracts from the perspective of ordinary humans like us, and while something such as this seems readily obvious to an average Joe, they've decided that "base pay" means "the lowest paying jet equipment category that has ever been operated by Mesa since the CBA was signed."
Because it is not explicitly stated to the contrary, the arbitrator determined that equipment-specific payrates are only effective in an operational sense--i.e. those are the rates you get when actually flying that specific aircraft.
Because it is not explicitly stated to the contrary, the arbitrator determined that equipment-specific payrates are only effective in an operational sense--i.e. those are the rates you get when actually flying that specific aircraft.
07-06-2015, 06:24 AM
#8822
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The way it was explained to me by one of the MEC officers is that the TA was annotated with the term "base pay" when it was signed and ratified but that term never made it into the final product that was printed after ratification. It was on the basis that the parties signed the TA that the arbitrator found that "base pay" was what everyone had agreed to.
07-06-2015, 08:54 AM
#8823
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The way it was explained to me by one of the MEC officers is that the TA was annotated with the term "base pay" when it was signed and ratified but that term never made it into the final product that was printed after ratification. It was on the basis that the parties signed the TA that the arbitrator found that "base pay" was what everyone had agreed to.
07-08-2015, 12:46 PM
#8824
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I swear our union is *king worthless. Having worked and other regionals I can say from expirence that mag alpa is the most spineless lazy union I have seen yet. Unless your a CA they just don't give a dam.
07-08-2015, 12:48 PM
#8825
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And while I'm at it. Screw back the pac. I want forign carriers to invade the U.S. That means jobs for us and an end to these ****ty pay rates
07-08-2015, 01:52 PM
#8827
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MAG ALPA seems to pick their battles, rather than going on quixotic quests to make this place a career destination and/or sink the entire airline.
For example, it seems like they're compromising with the company on payrates in contract negotiations, but holding the line on the FOQA gatekeeper issue. They aren't going to push for payrates that would put the company out of business, but they are fighting the company on ludicrous stuff like company control of FOQA.
07-08-2015, 02:47 PM
#8828
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Position: CRJ FO
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They're more pragmatic than my previous ALPA carrier. Believe me you don't want a militant union run solely by senior lifer Captains that fights the company over every little thing and never compromises on anything.
MAG ALPA seems to pick their battles, rather than going on quixotic quests to make this place a career destination and/or sink the entire airline.
For example, it seems like they're compromising with the company on payrates in contract negotiations, but holding the line on the FOQA gatekeeper issue. They aren't going to push for payrates that would put the company out of business, but they are fighting the company on ludicrous stuff like company control of FOQA.
MAG ALPA seems to pick their battles, rather than going on quixotic quests to make this place a career destination and/or sink the entire airline.
For example, it seems like they're compromising with the company on payrates in contract negotiations, but holding the line on the FOQA gatekeeper issue. They aren't going to push for payrates that would put the company out of business, but they are fighting the company on ludicrous stuff like company control of FOQA.
07-08-2015, 03:22 PM
#8829
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07-08-2015, 10:36 PM
#8830
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Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 1,082
Anybody know if the new deal will include real cancellation pay, not just line guarantee?
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