CBreezy

Oh stop. Just because he is ok with spending more of his personal money for work does not make him a puppet or a company plant. People have different opinions about what is acceptable and while I think requiring anyone to foot that kind of bill for a tablet is outrageous, I respect him for stating and standing by an unpopular opinion.

ScottyDo

Thanks bro, nice to know not everyone in here acts like a 12 year old.

Paid2fly

You're right! We should all look for other ways to pay costs that the company should be paying as part of the cost of doing business.











NOT!

prior121

I can't blame Mesa for trying to trim the fat in anyway possible.

I feel like most of you don't understand the difference between FFD airlines and the majors who create revenue by selling seats.

Mesa is barely turning a profit, the money just isnt there.

RgrMurdock

Looks like mesa will never get a new contract. Not even industry average.

EuroMexPilot

Not anymore... It's called progress.
Let me know when Mesa starts covering the cost of KCM and iPads.

20sx

Actually, I'm hoping/thinking we can do industry average. Definitely not leading, but average will still be a jump for us.

NovemberBravo

2nd..........

Darant

This is precisely the reason current public opinion in America is anti-union. The purpose of our union is not to get you everything you desire or to hold the company and your fellow employees hostage until you get what you want. There is a happy medium that both parties can agree to that wont sink Mesa which would ultimately cost you your job and create a better working contract with some increase in pay.

Secondly, and this to me is the most important point to be said. If you are just about to upgrade, then I assume you might not have been here that long. I of course could be wrong on many levels with that assumption. However, the people that have come here in at least the last 2 years KNEW what they were getting into. You made the choice to be paid 22 dollars an hour first year, to purchase your own individual Ipad, etc. OF COURSE we can strive to improve our quality of lives and pay but most importantly, sinking the company just for the sake of your own misguided principle does nothing for yourself or your fellow employees. Having to move to another regional to be at the bottom of the list again makes no since to me which leads me to believe your statement is just for show. Why would you wish that on yourself. If that is the case, leave now, find another place that you feel is a better fit for you and save yourself and us the heartache. Its like the CEO of Sun Country saying he will shut the company down if he doesn't get the pilots to agree to a new contract. BS!!!!! He is only saying that to get public opinion on his side (which is easy because the public already thinks all pilots are rich) and to scare the pilots into agreeing to a sub par contract. Its in JO's best interest to come to an agreement with us. At least he's not trying the same scare tactics.

Take a step back and think about your rhetoric, be a professional.

BeatNavy

While I unfortunately don't have time to respond to the rest of your post, some of which I agree with, but a lot I disagree with, I will say that "professionals" get paid more than $20k a year...a lot more. Take a step back and think about your rhetoric. You paid how much for time and experience for this job, and you get paid how much?

Knowing the contract, pay, and benefits going into a job does not mean employees should just roll over and take the scraps that are given to them while management takes home the cake and the steak. Sure, there is a happy medium, but right now we are (and have been) in a situation where management has been absolutely crushing us with pay and benefits, for years. Being appeased because it would only hurt a little bit (if a marginal TA were to pass) is not necessarily right. It's like the beaten wife getting beaten less and being told to be happy about it because the beatings are a fundamental part of existence (similar to the rhetoric that our low pay has to exist for the company to survive). If the numbers don't work out, change the business plan. Labor costs aren't the only costs that can be reduced.

Maybe employing smarter people who can make more efficient lines and schedules would be a start, or crew trackers who are a little bit better. Or maybe better management. I don't know the answer, but I do know pilots aren't the only cost to the company.