Mesa
06-13-2015, 10:17 PM
#8401
Chief Engineer
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 815
I think there is a little more to it than just TPIC time homie.
06-13-2015, 11:26 PM
#8402
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 43
Tons of CAs at regionals who don't have their apps in at the majors. Mesa just happens to be senior with many guys happy where they are. It doesn't matter what regional you fly for. Reason why all the majors dropped the 1000TPIC requirement. I know many guys getting hired without TPIC but have something else such as int'l experience or masters degrees but I think the most important thing are the internals.
06-13-2015, 11:28 PM
#8403
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
They're reasonable guys--if you have legitimate reasons for missing a commute they aren't going to burn you for it. But if you're exceeding the limits of the policy constantly b/c you're cutting it close and/or not paying attention to the weather/loads/etc., they're going to be like "hey, friend-o, what's the deal here?"
06-13-2015, 11:36 PM
#8405
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 1,082
If you're unavailable a third time, you're probably going to have a carpet dance, in which your chief pilot is probably going to want a really good explanation of what the problem with your commute is, and how you plan on fixing it.
They're reasonable guys--if you have legitimate reasons for missing a commute they aren't going to burn you for it. But if you're exceeding the limits of the policy constantly b/c you're cutting it close and/or not paying attention to the weather/loads/etc., they're going to be like "hey, friend-o, what's the deal here?"
They're reasonable guys--if you have legitimate reasons for missing a commute they aren't going to burn you for it. But if you're exceeding the limits of the policy constantly b/c you're cutting it close and/or not paying attention to the weather/loads/etc., they're going to be like "hey, friend-o, what's the deal here?"
How's this sound: "I keep getting bumped by Envoy and ExpressJet pilots. How are those AA mainline nonrev bennies coming along?" Reasonable?
06-13-2015, 11:41 PM
#8406
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
We're one of the smallest, most junior pilot groups in the US 121 world, and we have lots of people who don't have college degrees, who started out at CC Air/Air Midwest way back when.
I'm assuming you're one of those people without a college education, since you don't seem to comprehend that attrition numbers represent a statistical sample of a pilot group.
If you filter out:
a) people with no 4-year degree from a "real" college (University of Phoenix/online diploma mills don't count)
b) people who do not want to leave
and
c) people with less than 3,000 hours total time/1,000 TPIC (which is essentially >60% of the seniority list at this moment in time)
...I am very certain our attrition-to-better-jobs numbers--on a percentage basis--are equal to or better than any US 121 regional.
Quit if you hate it here so much. Especially if you're a Captain senior to me on the EJet.
Last edited by flapshalfspeed; 06-13-2015 at 11:54 PM.
06-14-2015, 12:07 AM
#8407
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 43
DeVry and online college mills are no good? Wouldn't that wipe out half the regional guys? Most senior folks at the Regionals don't have a college degree.
06-14-2015, 05:33 AM
#8409
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 64
You're an idiot.
We're one of the smallest, most junior pilot groups in the US 121 world, and we have lots of people who don't have college degrees, who started out at CC Air/Air Midwest way back when.
I'm assuming you're one of those people without a college education, since you don't seem to comprehend that attrition numbers represent a statistical sample of a pilot group.
If you filter out:
a) people with no 4-year degree from a "real" college (University of Phoenix/online diploma mills don't count)
b) people who do not want to leave
and
c) people with less than 3,000 hours total time/1,000 TPIC (which is essentially >60% of the seniority list at this moment in time)
...I am very certain our attrition-to-better-jobs numbers--on a percentage basis--are equal to or better than any US 121 regional.
Quit if you hate it here so much. Especially if you're a Captain senior to me on the EJet.
We're one of the smallest, most junior pilot groups in the US 121 world, and we have lots of people who don't have college degrees, who started out at CC Air/Air Midwest way back when.
I'm assuming you're one of those people without a college education, since you don't seem to comprehend that attrition numbers represent a statistical sample of a pilot group.
If you filter out:
a) people with no 4-year degree from a "real" college (University of Phoenix/online diploma mills don't count)
b) people who do not want to leave
and
c) people with less than 3,000 hours total time/1,000 TPIC (which is essentially >60% of the seniority list at this moment in time)
...I am very certain our attrition-to-better-jobs numbers--on a percentage basis--are equal to or better than any US 121 regional.
Quit if you hate it here so much. Especially if you're a Captain senior to me on the EJet.
06-14-2015, 07:42 AM
#8410
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 455
1) New-hires at Mesa are moving up anywhere from 5-10 numbers per month, and averaging about 30 coming in junior to them every month. That means folks are leaving and going elsewhere, and yes I've met plenty of Mesa pilots that are now UA new-hires.
2) Majors don't care about regional pedigree, heck if Mesa is that bad and we didn't want to hire their pilots, then why would their operation be good enough to safely transport our passengers, etc? Why would UA or AA being willing to put their code, and livery on those aircraft?
If anything, the one regional I hear about the most for having a bad reputation in the UA new-hire ranks is Skywest. However, a few bad apples doesn't stop us from hiring from Skywest.
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