Search

Notices
Mesa Airlines Regional Airline

Mesa

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-20-2015, 06:16 AM
  #7981  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,606
Default

Originally Posted by FaceBiten
From the alpa email: Ornstein says Harty’s take on the 1500 hour rule as told to Regional Horizons include, “If the FAA truly wants to enhance safety it will get this 1500 rule repealed. The military has guys flying missions in Iraq with 400 hours. And when the quality of training was controlled, we had better pilots.”
ATP flight school is JUST like military training.
CBreezy is offline  
Old 05-20-2015, 06:48 AM
  #7982  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
Default

I think he is referring more to MAPD. I will say the MAPD grads I had come through training did very well on the whole.
Xdashdriver is offline  
Old 05-20-2015, 06:52 AM
  #7983  
Gets Weekends Off
 
24/48's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 455
Default

Originally Posted by Pullout
When did we have to take contract concessions? They forgot to deduct from mine I guess. And it's not a conspirators theory to know that Mesa gets business by grossly underbidding our competitors. How are we able to do this? That's right, we work for a fraction of what others do. But when we have people like you vowing to vote 'yes' if they throw an extra quarter your way, how could we lose!? Quit being shortsighted. We're being whipsawed against each other and legacy management is winning. We're subsidizing their multi billion dollar yearly profit. But please, take your shiny new quarter and feel proud. You seem to have animosity toward me but I think it's deeper than that. It may come from the fact you know I just might be right...wear your ten year pin with pride buddy.
You acknowledge the truth and yet you still think you can win. No doubt the "Never Quit" spirit is admirable, but you need only look at recent history to know you don't have chance in he!!.
24/48 is offline  
Old 05-20-2015, 06:57 AM
  #7984  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,054
Default

Originally Posted by 24/48
You acknowledge the truth and yet you still think you can win. No doubt the "Never Quit" spirit is admirable, but you need only look at recent history to know you don't have chance in he!!.
Jerry? Is that you?
PilotCrusader is offline  
Old 05-20-2015, 07:15 AM
  #7985  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Harpyr's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 167
Default

Originally Posted by sulkair
Look, all I know is we all have to work somewhere, and hell I had some really cool things happen in my life while at Mesa. Namely meeting my wife, starting my family. Buying my first home. Picking up 2 more along the way having 4 different domiciles. Not to mention all the friends I met and the many type ratings.
But... but... this is the innerwebz! We aren't supposed to have lives outside of work! Nothing else matters!

Thanks for your refreshing insight and good luck at Frontier!
Harpyr is offline  
Old 05-20-2015, 12:30 PM
  #7986  
Gets Weekends Off
 
24/48's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 455
Default

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Jerry? Is that you?
Hah funny! I guess it doesn't matter for a regional lifer such as yourself, you just get to stagnate at the top, must be nice.
24/48 is offline  
Old 05-20-2015, 09:41 PM
  #7987  
West Coast livin
 
On Autopilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Captain
Posts: 984
Default

Originally Posted by Harpyr
But... but... this is the innerwebz! We aren't supposed to have lives outside of work! Nothing else matters!

Thanks for your refreshing insight and good luck at Frontier!
LOL Sulk wishing you the best!
On Autopilot is offline  
Old 05-21-2015, 10:29 AM
  #7988  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Yellow Bus
Posts: 355
Default

Originally Posted by FaceBiten
From the alpa email: Ornstein says Harty’s take on the 1500 hour rule as told to Regional Horizons include, “If the FAA truly wants to enhance safety it will get this 1500 rule repealed. The military has guys flying missions in Iraq with 400 hours. And when the quality of training was controlled, we had better pilots.”

lol I didn't realize military carries 50-76 paying civilian passengers around :P It's easy to not care about 400 hours when you just eject and there's no one to care about besides me, myself, and I.

and XJT hires new FOs from the military (that are just getting recency from us) and the are awful. Most can't talk on the radio....."wait, who is this? Ground? what do I say to them?" "what do I tell ramp now? where am I?"
dfwflyboy is offline  
Old 05-21-2015, 10:40 AM
  #7989  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,606
Default

Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
lol I didn't realize military carries 50-76 paying civilian passengers around :P It's easy to not care about 400 hours when you just eject and there's no one to care about besides me, myself, and I.

and XJT hires new FOs from the military (that are just getting recency from us) and the are awful. Most can't talk on the radio....."wait, who is this? Ground? what do I say to them?" "what do I tell ramp now? where am I?"
This is the single most inflammatory thing I've ever heard. Every single person who is new to air carrier ops is going to struggle getting used to the flow. It doesn't matter if you're a military pilot, a corporate pilot, or a CFI. It's a completely different world. Military pilots don't fly into O'hare or JFK. They are too busy getting shot at where there is little to no infrastructure. And anyone who says they are "awful" has no concept of what they are capable of. If anything, most civilian captains I flew with were incompetent and some of the worst "leaders" I've ever seen. They can't express what they want so they just do it themselves. I'd be willing to bet that you think 25 hours of IOE is enough to cover all the bases of every situation you could experience and you shouldn't have to give tips or help out the FO after that because you "aren't getting paid to do that."

Most military pilots could fly circles around 10 year captains at the regionals.
CBreezy is offline  
Old 05-21-2015, 11:13 AM
  #7990  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,459
Default

Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
lol I didn't realize military carries 50-76 paying civilian passengers around :P It's easy to not care about 400 hours when you just eject and there's no one to care about besides me, myself, and I.

and XJT hires new FOs from the military (that are just getting recency from us) and the are awful. Most can't talk on the radio....."wait, who is this? Ground? what do I say to them?" "what do I tell ramp now? where am I?"
Dude! Really!?!? I can't believe you wrote this.
sulkair is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nwa757
Regional
31
07-31-2018 04:58 PM
AirbornPegasus
Regional
14
04-08-2009 07:17 PM
Spanky189
Regional
10
05-16-2008 09:38 AM
familyguy
Regional
49
04-11-2008 12:03 AM
LOW FUEL
Regional
104
08-17-2007 04:41 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices