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Old 05-02-2015, 02:03 PM
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His company only dragged down the industry for 17 years. Knowledge is power!
When I went to TSA, the only regionals with better contracts were XJT, SKW, WIS, and Eagle. Two of them areessentially collapsing and skywest/Wisconsin weren't hiring.

Your insult means a lot coming from the one airline created to completely circumvent the collective bargaining of another pilot group.
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Old 05-02-2015, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
When I went to TSA, the only regionals with better contracts were XJT, SKW, WIS, and Eagle. Two of them areessentially collapsing and skywest/Wisconsin weren't hiring.

Your insult means a lot coming from the one airline created to completely circumvent the collective bargaining of another pilot group.
You got it we're going on 10 years broski!
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Old 05-02-2015, 03:36 PM
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Can someone give me some insight on reserve lines In IAH for a f/o? I'm hearing there's a bunch of guys and gals getting assigned ready reserve.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Okay sweetheart. Keep up the one line idiocy.

It's not logic. It is fact. Expressjet publishes their numbers for public comsumption so it is no secret.
Hey, wanna know a funny story? This one time, I read this thing you posted, and I didn't use my brain. I genuinely thought you said that FO's were being /hired at/ Envoy and ExpressJet, but you said /hired from/. Then I thought you were defending that, but again, I didn't brain.

TLDR; Sorry, carry on, and you're absolutely right. My reading was bad and I feel bad.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lavdumper
Can someone give me some insight on reserve lines In IAH for a f/o? I'm hearing there's a bunch of guys and gals getting assigned ready reserve.
Reserve lines are all 11 days off. You bid for ready reserve if you want it. If no ones bids a particular shift then it goes to the most junior available reserve pilot. When I was on ready there was 1 morning shift guy and 1 afternoon shift guy. Not sure if they have bumped that up now that we have more aircraft on the line. Ready shifts are 8 hours long and they pay 3.9 hours towards guarantee.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Okay sweetheart. Keep up the one line idiocy.

It's not logic. It is fact. Expressjet publishes their numbers for public comsumption so it is no secret.
Sweetheart? uhhhh.

Gay bruh.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
This could be the single dumbest thing I've ever read on here. You are the poster child for everything that is wrong in this industry. The reason those ATP grads are choosing Mesa is 1) most of them are pretty dumb in the first place and 2) clowns like you are saying how awesome it is to work for JOs Sweatshop. All that aside, your "proof" that movement is better than pay is completely wrong. FOs are being hired in large numbers from places like XJT and ENY. Plus, any civilian only pilot hired after spring 2013 when most of thr big regionals started having hiring problems has yet to get an invite to work at a big 3.
Maybe you missed the UAL Q1 report, but UAL is INCREASING the 50 seater draw down. Things are rapidly changing, and changing on a monthly basis. We are interviewing as many applicants as possible with a huge percentage interviewed getting a class date. That trend will continue, and anything prospective applicants can do to rise to the top of the stack is a good thing. That would be things like TPIC, LCA, instructor, community service, and so on. Working for the best regional with the best contract is NOT on that list. But hey, if it makes you feel good to knock Mesa then have at it, but you may be pulling gear for some of these guys in the future.

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Because Mesa is literally everything that's wrong with this industry. You could do everyone a favor and get any kind of improvements on your contract because you are dragging the rest of us down.
ROFLMAO! You work for a company that created alter-ego GoJets! A play made by Hulas straight from JO. The only difference is that Mesa squashed the alter-ego attempt by obtaining scope protections. Those protections cost them dearly in pay and QOL, and they have yet to find a favorable environment to negotiate in.

Originally Posted by CBreezy
When I went to TSA, the only regionals with better contracts were XJT, SKW, WIS, and Eagle. Two of them are essentially collapsing and skywest/Wisconsin weren't hiring.

Your insult means a lot coming from the one airline created to completely circumvent the collective bargaining of another pilot group.
So Mesa was created to circumvent the collective bargaining of others? Like GoJets or something?

Your revisionist history lesson is a joke!

I have a lot of friends at XJT, many of whom chose to stay there rather than coming to CAL when the opportunity presented itself. Now, they are busting their ass to get that number at UAL, several thousand numbers junior to where they would have been had they jumped at the CAL opportunity in '05-'07. One of the big reasons was the pay, QOL, etc that the XJT contract offered vs. the scab-contract we had at CAL. It was a valid point at the time, and though no one can predict the future, focusing on improving a part of the industry that is dying a slow death vs. focusing on making yourself as marketable as possible is a fools errand. Ask the senior XJT'ers if you'd like. We don't care what your lineage is, unless you crossed a picket line, or how awesome your contract was, we care about the quality of the resume.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Isn't United parking some OO 700s this year?

Also in regards to a base - Definitely won't be ORD. OO and S5 already have a large EJET presence there.
Yes we are parking 15 CR7's this year. To exercise the full amount of 76 seaters permitted they can have no more than 102 70 seaters. This 102 includes the E170's. UAL prefers the cabin layout, and performance of the Embraer 170/175 so I suspect we'll see more CR7's parked as leases/contracts come up. Inside of 5 years I expect to see UAX solely operating Ejets with all 50 seaters and CR7's gone.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
Maybe you missed the UAL Q1 report, but UAL is INCREASING the 50 seater draw down. Things are rapidly changing, and changing on a monthly basis. We are interviewing as many applicants as possible with a huge percentage interviewed getting a class date. That trend will continue, and anything prospective applicants can do to rise to the top of the stack is a good thing. That would be things like TPIC, LCA, instructor, community service, and so on. Working for the best regional with the best contract is NOT on that list. But hey, if it makes you feel good to knock Mesa then have at it, but you may be pulling gear for some of these guys in the future.



ROFLMAO! You work for a company that created alter-ego GoJets! A play made by Hulas straight from JO. The only difference is that Mesa squashed the alter-ego attempt by obtaining scope protections. Those protections cost them dearly in pay and QOL, and they have yet to find a favorable environment to negotiate in.



So Mesa was created to circumvent the collective bargaining of others? Like GoJets or something?

Your revisionist history lesson is a joke!

I have a lot of friends at XJT, many of whom chose to stay there rather than coming to CAL when the opportunity presented itself. Now, they are busting their ass to get that number at UAL, several thousand numbers junior to where they would have been had they jumped at the CAL opportunity in '05-'07. One of the big reasons was the pay, QOL, etc that the XJT contract offered vs. the scab-contract we had at CAL. It was a valid point at the time, and though no one can predict the future, focusing on improving a part of the industry that is dying a slow death vs. focusing on making yourself as marketable as possible is a fools errand. Ask the senior XJT'ers if you'd like. We don't care what your lineage is, unless you crossed a picket line, or how awesome your contract was, we care about the quality of the resume.
No Dummy. Goldenjet is a GJ pilot. I work for a company that did create GJ but the pilot group has improved the contract leaps and bounds since then. What has the Mesa pilot group done to improve working conditions? The upgrade time at TSA is shorter than at Mesa. So, why go to Mesa again? You claim that TPIC is the most important factor but you do so while sacrificing QOL and pay. At Mesa, you're going to make 5-10k less than at TSA per year flying bigger, new aircraft. If Mesa had a hard time staffing, I would be willing to bet they would have much more leverage with their contract negotiations. But it's fine. You can justify one of the worst benefits and pay packages in all of aviation. You can say, "go to Mesa because you'll be at United in no time!" What's the reality? Have you read the hiring sections? Many people from United are saying civilian pilots are averaging 10,000 flight hours in new hire classes. Even if that's an over statement, you're still looking at spending no less than 5 years at a regional. The best leverage Mesa has is the pilot pay shortage. But keep telling these kids that they'll upgrade and be at United in no time. That's a lie. The very few going to the majors with less than 3000TT right now are the military or incredibly well connected. Otherwise, with a Bachelor's in English from State U, you're one of several thousand.

United is parking 50-seaters and no one is denying that. Going to place like XJT or even Envoy right now might not be advisable but I would be willing to bet my career (hence why I'm here) TSA or TSA/GJ/Compass in its current size will be around for quite some time. I'm not even saying TSA has the best contract. There are many areas that need lots of work. Unfortunately, the ones with the best contracts are the ones that are shrinking.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
Yes we are parking 15 CR7's this year. To exercise the full amount of 76 seaters permitted they can have no more than 102 70 seaters. This 102 includes the E170's. UAL prefers the cabin layout, and performance of the Embraer 170/175 so I suspect we'll see more CR7's parked as leases/contracts come up. Inside of 5 years I expect to see UAX solely operating Ejets with all 50 seaters and CR7's gone.
I doubt that. I would bet it would take a decade to park all the 50-seaters. In fact, I would bet SKW, XJT and TSA continue to operate the -200, and -145s in some form for the foreseeable future.
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