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MartinC08 02-02-2015 08:46 PM

What's mesa's priority on the standby listing for UAL?

kfahmi 02-03-2015 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by MartinC08 (Post 1817686)
Is it pretty reliable to use the international flight benefits on the UA side?....if there's 20+ seats being shown as open on a flight that's in 24 hrs, do you have a good chance of getting on?

I don't know what it is with United, but I swear they have a magic program that looks at the amount of open seats the morning of a flight and automatically books random people (probably against their will) on the flight until the flight shows 10 oversold. Have had this happen on virtually every United mainline flight I try to get on. If I wasn't able to ride the jumpseat domestically I'd never actually get on.

As for international, we tried to go SFO-HKG. Seven hours before departure they were showing 70 open seats. Got to the airport and it was 11 oversold. Tried Honolulu with the same result. I've seen the same thing many, many times.

Not sure why, but Delta mainline seems much better in this respect...

flapshalfspeed 02-03-2015 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bikingscott (Post 1817027)
It was the same deal for the Hawaii guys.
Everyone gets UAL bennies...Only guys based in a US/AA domicile get US/AA bennies.
Besides your not missing much anyway. Unless you list for the Jumpseat, Mesa employees are put on the standby list BEHIND D3s! (AA buddy pass holders)

Everyone I know stayed on Airways bennies even while we were out in Hawaii. I think it depends on your presently-awarded base during the enrollment window.

All CRJ pilots on the mainland (which is to say all CRJ pilots now), can and do perform flying for both mainline partners--so all CRJ pilots get to non-rev in both systems. For example, one time as an IAD lineholding FO, I had a UAX CLT-IAD flight cancel, and crew sched reassigned my CA and I to operate a CLT-IAD flight in the Airways system. It's not just reserves--everyone can and occasionally does do flying for both partners.

I'm just saying the IAH base is the only place where no one is going to touch an Airways flight number, hence in theory no one there will have Airways benefits after this year's enrollment period ends.

Bikingscott 02-03-2015 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1817924)
Everyone I know stayed on Airways bennies even while we were out in Hawaii. I think it depends on your presently-awarded base during the enrollment window.



I'm just saying the IAH base is the only place where no one is going to touch an Airways flight number, hence in theory no one there will have Airways benefits after this year's enrollment period ends.

Yes, I believe you are correct on both of the points above.

Bikingscott 02-03-2015 07:42 AM

Or...What if Mesa gets 175 (E-jet) AA flying.....

24/48 02-03-2015 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1817754)
Find me an insurance company or leasing agency who will insure/lease a 787 to an operator allowing PICs with 800 hours SIC time on type.

NAI's Captain requirements are much, much higher than those of any US regional.

Your counterpoint is invalid.

Sure, insurance will be strict since it is a new type, however, the aircraft has been operating for some time and has established reliability, albeit somewhat blemished. Over time, when an air carrier builds up a good safety record with a certain type of aircraft, staffing them becomes a lot less restrictive.


Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed (Post 1817768)
Just to reinforce my statement that NAI's standards for PICs are much higher than US regionals' standards for PICs:

Minimum Requirements

  • JAA/EASA License
  • JAA/EASA medical Class one
  • 5000 hours total time
  • 2000 PIC hours on any Boeing aircraft
  • 500 hours on B787, B777, B767 or B747-400
  • Current B777, B767/B757, B747-400 or B737 type rating
  • Under 61 years old at date of application
  • Non type rated B777/787 pilots need to provide a training cost bond for three years, decreasing by 1/3 each year

And I'm not saying you'd be good to go as a street Captain, which are the minimums above.

To further my point above....once the aircraft has an established safety/reliability record with the air carrier the above in bold would most likely be the most restrictive to someone like yourself. I did add B787 because that is what the insurance company would do over time.

RB211 02-03-2015 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Bikingscott (Post 1818077)
Or...What if Mesa gets 175 (E-jet) AA flying.....

Or, what if J.O. Negotiates with Air France, and Mesa gets a couple of Concordes? Or what if Mesa brings back a Convair 990? How cool would that be?
No No No, I am waiting for Mesa to get a DC6, I feel like flying some round engines!

PilotGuy77 02-03-2015 01:11 PM

Lol I was thinking dc 8

VanDriver208 02-03-2015 02:05 PM

Eff that! I heard from J.O.'s brother's, cousin's, girlfriend's, dog that Mesa is getting a government contract to fly F/A-18s against ISIS in the Middle East at $20/flight hour! Pretty cool huh? ;)

RB211 02-03-2015 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 1818420)
Eff that! I heard from J.O.'s brother's, cousin's, girlfriend's, dog that Mesa is getting a government contract to fly F/A-18s against ISIS in the Middle East at $20/flight hour! Pretty cool huh? ;)

I heard that we would only get to use the standard iron bombs. If we want to use JDAM's, we are going to have to pay for that out of our paychecks.


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