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Old 02-06-2015, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Isn't there a term for that? Hmm. Also, I think I'd take a Riddle grad over ATP. Just saying.
Hmm, I'm thinking the opposite. ATP was my first exposure to profiles, callouts, and multi crew environments. When I was time building, everything was done IFR with an instructor, before I ever started my instrument rating. True, it was kids teaching kids, but I found my experience there invaluable.
If you hire an ATP grad, you know they will not struggle with procedures, call outs, and CRM.
I cant speak for ERAU, but theres no denying the name recognition.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Isn't there a term for that? Hmm. Also, I think I'd take a Riddle grad over ATP. Just saying.
Wait, you really think there's that much of a difference?
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Wait, you really think there's that much of a difference?
Probably not much of a difference. But you gotta think of it from a public image sort of view. If there was a tragic accident and they go into the pilots background blurting it all over TV. Who would the airline rather have? An ATP wonder pilot who got all of his ratings in 12 months? Or someone with a four year degree in the profession in which they have chosen to make a living?
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
ATP is the community college of flight schools. You might finish, but you didn't learn much.....half the students are constantly stoned.
If anyone takes anything you say seriously, they are an idiot.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Isn't there a term for that? Hmm. Also, I think I'd take a Riddle grad over ATP. Just saying.
I'd rather spend 4 days sitting next to someone with no aviation degree, those types are usually know it alls and not bros whatsoever. Just sayin'
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
I can normally spot those tools by them going bananas over the front desk lady who is clearly a 4....maybe a 5 at best after a few complimentary charcoal filtered cocktails.
Riddle vision!
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
ATP is the community college of flight schools. You might finish, but you didn't learn much.....half the students are constantly stoned.
I've heard some pretty bad things about ATP but at least they use a DPE for their checkrides. At Riddle most of the checkrides are done in house with an examiner who is an employee of the school. It's in their best interest for the applicant to pass on the first attempt. Someone could fail every in house "checkride" but still have a clean record in the eyes of the FAA and in airline interviews. Not saying their students are crap but it wouldn't be overwhelming difficult for one to slip through the cracks.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
I've heard some pretty bad things about ATP but at least they use a DPE for their checkrides. At Riddle most of the checkrides are done in house with an examiner who is an employee of the school. It's in their best interest for the applicant to pass on the first attempt. Someone could fail every in house "checkride" but still have a clean record in the eyes of the FAA and in airline interviews. Not saying their students are crap but it wouldn't be overwhelming difficult for one to slip through the cracks.
Actually at the aviation university I graduated from looked at doing checkrides in house. The problem they had with it was if you do that then you have to have a certain failure percentage for the FAA to continue to allow it. But like most aviation schools we had a few DPEs that we used constantly because they were fair and we knew what to expect beforehand.
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:55 PM
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I've seen good and bad students/instructors/pilots at each kind of flight school, whether it was a 141 collegiate program, ATP, or a mom and pop FBO. That said, the mom and pop FBO's (especially in rural areas) probably had some of the least experienced aviators.

I think it mostly has to do with your personal aptitude, your personal motivation, and the quality of your instructor(s).
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:01 AM
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Are you a better pilot because your parents/grandparents bought you a degree from ERAU? I'd rather sit next to a guy who has built up his flight time in real world flying in many different airplanes and in different conditions.
Are there good pilots from a 4 year degree program? Yes, I'm sure there are. But, what I've seen are lazy SJS wanna be's still living off their parents while pursuing their life long dream at 21 years old R-ATP morons that can't fly a cross wind landing. Book smart but still a dumba$$.
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