24/48

Sure, insurance will be strict since it is a new type, however, the aircraft has been operating for some time and has established reliability, albeit somewhat blemished. Over time, when an air carrier builds up a good safety record with a certain type of aircraft, staffing them becomes a lot less restrictive.

And I'm not saying you'd be good to go as a street Captain, which are the minimums above.

To further my point above....once the aircraft has an established safety/reliability record with the air carrier the above in bold would most likely be the most restrictive to someone like yourself. I did add B787 because that is what the insurance company would do over time.

RB211

Or, what if J.O. Negotiates with Air France, and Mesa gets a couple of Concordes? Or what if Mesa brings back a Convair 990? How cool would that be?
No No No, I am waiting for Mesa to get a DC6, I feel like flying some round engines!

PilotGuy77

Lol I was thinking dc 8

VanDriver208

Eff that! I heard from J.O.'s brother's, cousin's, girlfriend's, dog that Mesa is getting a government contract to fly F/A-18s against ISIS in the Middle East at $20/flight hour! Pretty cool huh?

RB211

I heard that we would only get to use the standard iron bombs. If we want to use JDAM's, we are going to have to pay for that out of our paychecks.

flapshalfspeed

Yes

...filler

flapshalfspeed

If I were in your seat, at your employer, with your career goals/expectations/outlook, I would certainly be concerned with cabotage/NAI/Emirates/Ethiad/pre-clearance facilities in Abu Dhabi.

However, as a single white male still riding right seat in an RJ after a decade in this game (due to no "fault" of my own), and after subsidizing the record profits of Delta and now AA/United by showing up to work as an RJ FO for my payrate all this time--well, I'm going to need more convincing that my interests are aligned with US legacies, instead of the foreign companies threatening your routes (but offering to interview/hire me/pay me a decent wage constantly, unlike your employer or any other US legacy at this time).

I'm all for solidarity with legacy pilots--but solidarity is a two-way street. If United starts hiring RJ drivers in significant quantities, or if ALPA national comes out with a firm stance that they'll never allow >age 65 to happen, or if your employer starts offering seniority numbers/guaranteed interviews to pilots at my company...maybe then I'll feel like my interests are starting to align with United's/Delta's re: NAI.

Until then, why would I donate money to ALPA PAC to protect legacy pilots from foreign competition, when legacy pilots (esp. at Delta) are making record bonuses and scoring solid pay/QOL improvements, due in part to my cheap labor subsidizing their cost structures?

Regional pilots directly subsidize the profits of legacies and the wages of legacy pilots, by providing lots of safe, cheap lift to fill up your 767/777--until there is some real movement from the regionals to the legacies, or some moves by legacy managements to address the absurd pay gap between us for doing the same exact job, I won't donate to ALPA-PAC--I'll be spending that money on interview prep/JAA books to study for interviews in the UAE--where I have an actual chance of making your wages and touching the left seat of a widebody in the next 30 years.

Navmode

You're right. The way I read the original post, it was a function of longevity similar to pay rate increases.

deltajuliet

In that case, any idea what it is in 2015?

United Considering 10-Abreast 777 Retrofits | Commercial Aviation content from Aviation Week

Crap like this makes me think foreign competition domestically might not be a horrible thing. The trick would be to get Emirates over but not Norwegian.

flapshalfspeed

For the record I want 24/48 to be right--I want to believe that I have a real shot at United, in the USA, and that I won't get stuck in the regionals this time around b/c of some sham bankruptcy, or moves by the grandpas to jack it on up to age 67 or 70, or some sort of scope relaxation allowing for 100 seaters at regionals. Or MPL/single-pilot cargo ops. I really, really want him to be right. But my experience has kind of beaten all of that hope outta me.