Originally Posted by Coneydog

Lol..FB you never disappoint. And I think the rest of you are missing the point. No one is talking about de-ice procedures and checklists specifically. It's all the other 'out of the norm' situations that happen in real time that one has to rely on experience to make the best decisions. Expecially when flying with a new FO. I thought it was common sense that one should gain adequate experience before moving over to the left seat. Apparently not. 1000 hours PIC in type is barely enough time. Doable for some...definitely not for others. And this is for all airlines....not just Mesa.

Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

I thought I was ready to upgrade when I had about 3-6 months on the line as an FO on my first jet like all these zero-to-hero folks on this thread. Then, after a 4AM showtime, I was shooting an ILS to mins in a -200, in a 27 knot crosswind in blowing snow, broke out, and kicked the crab out too early, right as we got hit with a decent gust/gain of airspeed. We floated upwards 10-20 feet and started moving laterally ever closer to the side of the runway. I made a "uhhhhhh" noise.

Smiling/laughing, my Captain said "my controls" and smoothly regained the centerline and put it down.

THAT is when you're ready to be a Captain--when you're not only "one with the airplane" but when you're also able to take the airplane from some FNG who has screwed it up royally, make a gut call to either fix it or go around, and avoid ending up in a ditch on the evening news--all in a matter of a few seconds (or less).

You're not at that level with only 500-1,000 hours of 121 SIC at Mesa. You probably are if you have previous 121, military, or 135 time--but if you just have 1,500 hours flight instructing in light GA planes--in easy weather--and 1,000 hours sitting shotgun on a 700/900--you have NO business in the left seat at all--you're a liability to me and my job (and yourself) and I don't want you there.

Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

Dude--we're not talking about you flying a 777 with years (probably decades) of experience. We're talking about people with 1,500 hours farting around in their dad's Cessna in VFR conditions taking command of jet after only 1 or 2 landings on contaminated runways or with crosswind components >15 knots.

I'm very, very sure you weren't ready to take command of that 777 with 1,500 hours in a Cessna and 12 months as a Mesa FO who doesn't even know what a "real" PC is like (b/c we've had AQP and that's all they've ever known).

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

I think it's fairly obvious 24/48 is skewed because his wife works at Mesa, so I'm pretty much justifying his off the mark comments on this.

Originally Posted by cherokee micro

Hi everybody, How much should I expect to make at Mesa per month during the second year after taxes ? appreciate

Originally Posted by martinc08

anyone else see the rumors on the gojet thread about them getting 7-9 crj900s? Could they be the ones that were slated for mesa?

Originally Posted by cherokee micro

thank you, and what about the average per month after taxes ?
around 2500 $ ?? or less ?

Originally Posted by 24/48

Flaps, I remember a discussion with you several months ago about foreign carriers, and you were so gung ho about seeing them on our soil. So what happens if NAI, or some other foreign carrier, comes here and opens up a base, after all that's what you'd like to see, and starts hiring US regional pilots. You're in the first wave of new-hires and they come to you after a few short months and say "We need you to upgrade to Captain on this 787", based on your recent posts I assume you'd say "Gee I'm not ready yet".