deltajuliet

And I can see why you might be a little frustrated.

Pilottim79

That is what Mesa needs. An even lower pay scale. I love all these little rumors.

tinman1

Honestly, in my experience as a newer PHX lineholder, I don't ever overblock a significant amount. The west coast system is 99% VFR and the hubs are for the most part a complete cake walk getting in and out of. There is the occasional hold for flow into PHX but it's nothing significant. To put things in perspective, I have only had to deice once this entire winter season. ONCE.

Now for the guys based in places like MSP and ORD, then I'm sure it is a completely different story. I'm not trying to defend our contact, but for us west coasters it wouldn't make a huge difference either way and there are plenty of other issues that need to be addressed in our contract.

Blackwing

JO did comment about how the American flying is consistently underblocked, which has a cascade effect on on-time departures. Combine this with the atrocious ground handling in DFW, and it's no wonder we're nowhere close to meeting our on-time performance goals on the American side.

Xdashdriver

"All pilots will be paid on the basis of scheduled (as published on the pilots' final bid award) or actual block flight time for each flight segment, whichever is greater."

There was a big settlement agreement on this as well, which goes into much more detail. If what skillett suggests is happening, they are in violation of the contract and settlement agreement. My understanding of the settlement agreement is that if your scheduled flying (minus any cancellations) plus any overblock is greater than line guarantee, you get paid the higher amount.

Here is the example given in the settlement agreement:

"A pilot is awarded an 80 hour line. His total actual flight time for the month (as calculated on flight segment basis) is 78 hours (comprised of 75 hours scheduled and 3 hours of over block). The pilot had 5 hours of cancellations. The pilot would be paid 80 hours for the month."

So it's not leg-by-leg cancellation pay, but it is scheduled block or better, leg by leg.

Blackwing

Ok PBS gurus, explain what the (Coverage) means in this excerpt from my results report:

Best Line Before:
D5138 2015-02-19 (011:20) (Coverage)
D5174 2015-02-25 (011:40)
D5190 2015-01-31 (017:09) (Coverage)
D5229 2015-02-13 (016:50)
D5313 2015-02-05 (017:26) (Coverage)
Total Credit: (074:25)

24/48

Not sure how long you've been in the industry but indeed Skywest had a blend rate for 50-99 seat jets, and in fairness it was marginally higher than the ASA 50 seat rate but lower than our 70 seat rate. In fact, after the purchase of ASA we started transferring 70 seat jets to Skywest because of the lower labor costs. I remember our late MEC Chair approaching Jerry and stating that it was a smart business decision to move the 70 seaters to Skywest and that by using the same logic the 50 seaters should be moved to ASA. But of course, that didn't happen, Jerry was simply telling us lowly union pilots who was in control. All the while Skywest pilots were gladly accepting the airframes. This was around the time of yet another failed union drive at Skywest.

If you go back in history much of what you see in the handbook was given to you after ACA, CMR, and Continental Express now XJT had negotiated industry leading contracts, save the pay rates. And don't kid yourself thinking Skywest saved XJT out of the goodness of their hearts, far be it. They were simply looking at it as an opportunity to park crap CPA's and whipsaw the crap out of two unionized carriers. This accomplished two things: 1) Skywest Holdings benefits from the revenue gain, and 2) It gives management a tool to curtail any future union drives at Skywest, Inc. They've been successful doing both.

Yup, and management has you pacified with those great numbers. No need to "rock the boat" and unionizing to possibly improve the situation for others. Nah, it's just better to stay non-union and kiss management's behind to ensure receipt of the next CPA, and then tout how awesome you guys are and how crappy places like Mesa are.

RB211

Good ole coverage awards... Thats when they give you stuff that you didn't ask for, because they need some one to fly it, and you have available time to do it.

Pilottim79

I thought he had to be mistaken. Block or better if not leg by leg would be completely worthless.

deltajuliet

Quick semi-related question, is it 30 hours rest within any rolling 168 hour period, or 30 hours of rest prior to any 168 hour period?