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Old 01-20-2015, 01:01 PM
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Reasonably attractive base options as well.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
SJS, 16 month upgrade, single occupancy hotel in training, and Republic, TSA, and Endeavor aren't any better. And not everyone fits the SkyWest mold.
Completely agree. The bases are nice and training is very good if this is your first time in a jet.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:20 PM
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Not to mention the training is so easy that a blind deaf and dumb monkey could pass.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kprc1
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You still work here?




You haven't upgraded yet?
I don't get you - you're a August 2014 hire - so you just came to Mesa five months ago, yet you ask a question about how will Mesa get new hires like a 12 year CA who is out of touch with the new hire crowd.

Well, why did YOU come here? Why did YOUR class mates come here.

If your ****ed that people keep coming here, you mister 5-month'r are part of the problem!

Not to mention your incoherent rambling about not flying on reserve, which if you know the slightest thing about how an airline works - is a GOOD thing. Wait til you're a line holder and want to drop or swap stuff. Lots of RSVs is a GOOD thing - your request will be approved.

YOU are in the base you wanted within five months of being hired. (PHX) When I was hired you had to be here atleast 8 years to hold PHX as an FO. It took me almost a year to get the base I wanted at RAH.

Why don't you quit, go to RAH or G7 or XJT, come back, then report to us what it's like to be at a REAL sh*tty airline with zero movement on the FO side. Where it takes 12-18 months just to get off FO RSV - not to upgrade..

Your complaints come across as a whiny ignorant FNG who is out of touch with what your peers in this industry are dealing with.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
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You still work here?




You haven't upgraded yet?




I don't get you - you're a August 2014 hire - so you just came to Mesa five months ago, yet you ask a question about how will Mesa get new hires like a 12 year CA who is out of touch with the new hire crowd.

Well, why did YOU come here? Why did YOUR class mates come here.

If your ****ed that people keep coming here, you mister 5-month'r are part of the problem!

Not to mention your incoherent rambling about not flying on reserve, which if you know the slightest thing about how an airline works - is a GOOD thing. Wait til you're a line holder and want to drop or swap stuff. Lots of RSVs is a GOOD thing - your request will be approved.

YOU are in the base you wanted within five months of being hired. (PHX) When I was hired you had to be here atleast 8 years to hold PHX as an FO. It took me almost a year to get the base I wanted at RAH.

Why don't you quit, go to RAH or G7 or XJT, come back, then report to us what it's like to be at a REAL sh*tty airline with zero movement on the FO side. Where it takes 12-18 months just to get off FO RSV - not to upgrade..

Your complaints come across as a whiny FNG who has no idea what is happening at other regionals in the industry.
Talked to an Envoy FO who was junp seating on a flight that I was non reving on and he had been there 4 years. Said he is just now barley holding a line. I mean who wants to go do that? Seriously.
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
That wasn't directed at you man. And I wasn't very good with articulating my point - which was - not APF as a site, but rather how all these "trolls" Cbreezy, FB, ETC hang out in the "Mesa section" and spew hate DAILY.
I'm pick'in up what you're lay'in down now, no worries.
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Ah. So the truth comes out.

Bitter Ex-ASA'er and your wife works for Mesa. Not biased at all 'eh?
Bitter? Maybe 10 years ago but I guess you missed the "water under the bridge" statement so you won't be seeing me crying in my Sapporo here in Tokyo on my layover. And my bias has always been towards my fellow union pilots irrespective of where my wife works.
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kprc1
I have a serious question. Please submit only helpful answers.
How does Mesa keep attracting new pilots?
Pilot pay is one of the worst.
Per Diem is the worst.
Upgrade times are not always certain.
No per Diem during training.
Please add your educated, professional and mature answers.
For my wife it was all about being based in IAH since we live there. There is absolutely no point in commuting to a regional if you don't have to, and she didn't need to go back to work. First choice was XJT as we have lots of friends there and she got an interview offer within hours of submitting her app. Put off the interview for a couple weeks to do some prep. 2 days before the interview XJT announces the parking of a bunch of airplanes, hiring will be brought to a halt soon, and some of our friends got furlough letters out of the training department. The interview process was a downer to say the least with little chance of being based in IAH for some time.

Started looking at other regionals based in IAH which is Mesa, and Skywest. Mesa was more appealing than Skywest for many reasons. Chief among them was the direction Mesa was going since restructuring. Skywest management was busy playing the ASA and XJT pilots against each other while the non-union Skywest pilots were sitting on the sidelines showing no interest in organizing to put an end to the nonsense. No thanks!

That left Mesa and the rest is history as they say.
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:24 PM
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Anybody that is in the feb 5th class is welcome to pm me if they want to study together
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
SJS, 16 month upgrade, single occupancy hotel in training, and Republic, TSA, and Endeavor aren't any better. And not everyone fits the SkyWest mold.
Way not even close. At TSA our contract is WAY better. We don't buy our iPads. We don't pay for Known Crew Member. We get paid better for 50 seats than you do for 70. We have actual leg by leg cancelation pay not just line guarantee. We are growing by 300% not 33% so our upgrade and relative seniority is way better.

TL;DR : Don't even try to lump TSA with Republic or Mesa. Not a close comparison.

Mesa is attracting new hires buy quoting upgrade times and shinny jet syndrome. I am not trolling and Mesa has a good pilot group and I have friends there, buti have to correct this misconception that TSA and Mesa are equivalent.
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