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Old 12-13-2014, 06:19 PM
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For those of you wondering why Mesa has the worst contract right now, you can thank Freedom Airlines and those pilots for making us at Mesa trade a pay raise and better contract rigs for scope and language to bring it all back over to one list. JO was going to shut Mesa down. Freedom didn't have a union and JO would have had a wet dream. We did not allow that to happen. Ever since then however, Mesa has been behind trailing everyone else and we have gotten bashed for it. Yet the blame lyes with those Freedom pilots and what they did to this airline. Almost no one at other regionals understand what happened and just love to blame Mesa for bringing the regional industry down but if they educated themselves they could thank not Mesa but Freedom A list pilots. Backstabbers have destroyed this profession.

So for those new guys this is why Mesa is what it is today.
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:38 PM
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i think envoy is finding out what you say.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiten
And I wouldn't exactly say I was humbled by my initial and my IOE at Mesa. It was about as easy as the interview.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
For those of you wondering why Mesa has the worst contract right now, you can thank Freedom Airlines and those pilots for making us at Mesa trade a pay raise and better contract rigs for scope and language to bring it all back over to one list. JO was going to shut Mesa down. Freedom didn't have a union and JO would have had a wet dream. We did not allow that to happen. Ever since then however, Mesa has been behind trailing everyone else and we have gotten bashed for it. Yet the blame lyes with those Freedom pilots and what they did to this airline. Almost no one at other regionals understand what happened and just love to blame Mesa for bringing the regional industry down but if they educated themselves they could thank not Mesa but Freedom A list pilots. Backstabbers have destroyed this profession.

So for those new guys this is why Mesa is what it is today.
As a TSA guy, I know exactly what it is like to have gone what you guys went through. A lot of water has passed under the bridge, but.....Guck FoJet
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
Btw, it's not like the lifers at Mesa planned to be one. This is the exact reason why. Things just didn't work in our favor. I thought I would be gone by year 6 or 7. It's 12 plus now because of furloughs, economy, age 65 rule, and now, I too am waiting on a lottery ticket.
I realize that, and accept that it could happen to me as well. However, nearly every captain I fly with has said they have no interest in going to a lcc. They could go to Spirit or Jet Blue, they are simply too comfortable where they are.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:16 PM
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Reading some of y'all's posts, with pretty much zero grammar and sentence structure, is like gouging my eyes out with hot needles.

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Old 12-13-2014, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Reading some of y'all's posts, with pretty much zero grammar and sentence structure, is like gauging my eyes out with hot needles.
I read gud why cannot me git hyred by mainlines?

I been Captain manie yeayurs and Uniteds wont caul me back I don't git it?
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
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Reading some of y'all's posts, with pretty much zero grammar and sentence structure, is like gauging my eyes out with hot needles.




I read gud why cannot me git hyred by mainlines?

I been Captain manie yeayurs and Uniteds wont caul me back I don't git it?
Imma trya reel hard now since em boys dun shut down my bulved Charlotte.I don been fair wit is compeny since I wasa flyin for Mr Hagerty at CC Air!
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:51 PM
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You express your irritation of posts using the wrong spelling of gouge? Thanks for the Saturday night hotel room chuckle. Anyway, doesn't ALPA National have some part to blame in the Mesa/Freedom Airlines/CC Air saga?
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GravellyPointer
You express your irritation of posts using the wrong spelling of gouge? Thanks for the Saturday night hotel room chuckle. Anyway, doesn't ALPA National have some part to blame in the Mesa/Freedom Airlines/CC Air saga?

If I remember correctly, ALPA national "Did us boys wrong, by not signing off on that contract."

Or so the #1 CLT guy was telling me once.
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