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#3711
After re-reading your post I see that you weren't labeling anyone a scab. We were both talking about scab-like-behavior, however, I just took exception to it because you fly for Skywest, a pilot group that has voted down representation a number of times and yet enjoys the fruits that the unionized pilots fought hard for. No worries, it is what it is, and as you say there are bigger things to worry about in this world.
#3712
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Originally Posted by 24/48
After re-reading your post I see that you weren't labeling anyone a scab. We were both talking about scab-like-behavior, however, I just took exception to it because you fly for Skywest, a pilot group that has voted down representation a number of times and yet enjoys the fruits that the unionized pilots fought hard for. No worries, it is what it is, and as you say there are bigger things to worry about in this world.
I'm not sure how you see that as so. Everything we have we have worked for-without the help of unions. I personally feel alpa is directly responsible for the state if the industry.
Originally Posted by 24/48
After re-reading your post I see that you weren't labeling anyone a scab. We were both talking about scab-like-behavior, however, I just took exception to it because you fly for Skywest, a pilot group that has voted down representation a number of times and yet enjoys the fruits that the unionized pilots fought hard for. No worries, it is what it is, and as you say there are bigger things to worry about in this world.
I'm not sure how you see that as so. Everything we have we have worked for-without the help of unions. I personally feel alpa is directly responsible for the state if the industry.
Every gain in any contract of every airline in this country is an indirect or direct result of union work. If you say "Well we don't have a Union at Skywest" your simply are not thinking outside the box on how labor pressure indirectly affects non union airlines.
#3713
I never bid golden days on reserve b/c I was living out of a suitcase/hotel, and I actually wanted them to junior assign me for the $$$ and the comp day off later in the month. And it also messed with my ability to rapidly swap around reserve days as the numbers in flica shifted, since you can't swap into a GLD/golden day unless you call crew line and have it removed.
#3714
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
I.e. if there's 28 net reserves on the 15th, and 26 net reserves on the 20th, you could trade your shift the 15th for the 20th, assuming no legalities were violated by the trade.
Look at the reserve grid and go to "Submit or View Requests" (I think), and you should be able to submit swap requests starting tomm around 12PM PHX time (I think).
#3716
As far as ALPA being responsible for the state of the industry...well I guess it depends on your perspective. Not saying everything is "lolly pops & balloons" but things have improved dramatically over the last few years since emerging from the decade that started off with an economic decline that was accelerated by 9/11, SARS, oil going through the roof, and a recession. Pretty sure those things were out of ALPA's hands, although, allowing the outsourcing of jets back in the 90's certainly allowed the Camel's nose under the tent.
The 50 seaters are quickly becoming obsolete and ALPA has contracts at both DAL and UAL, that although allows for 70-76 seat jets/props to be outsourced (your welcome BTW), replaces the 50 seaters at about a 2.5:1 ratio. In the next 3 years both DAL and UAL will park about 400 outsourced aircraft with no replacement. Combine that with the fact that the pilot hiring pool is getting drained at an alarming rate (we haven't even hit peak retirements at UAL) and you have the makings for even more of that outsourced flying coming back "in-house" in some form. Could be a flow through, could be provisioning, who knows. What I do know is that the UALMEC is not all that interested in a flow through, or provisioning agreement with a non-ALPA carrier.
So blame/hate/whatever ALPA all you want, but I'll continue helping my brothers & sisters at MAG.
#3717
Thanks flaps and weekdays.
I think I get it.
Is swapping with other pilots possible? I don't see why they'd care about net reserves if you and I switched shifts. Nothing changes for them; they're right where they started.
Once they reopen trades for Nov, you can go into flica and swap reserve days around 1-for-1, as long as the day you're trading out of has 2 or more net reserves than the day you're trading into.
I.e. if there's 28 net reserves on the 15th, and 26 net reserves on the 20th, you could trade your shift the 15th for the 20th, assuming no legalities were violated by the trade.
Look at the reserve grid and go to "Submit or View Requests" (I think), and you should be able to submit swap requests starting tomm around 12PM PHX time (I think).
I.e. if there's 28 net reserves on the 15th, and 26 net reserves on the 20th, you could trade your shift the 15th for the 20th, assuming no legalities were violated by the trade.
Look at the reserve grid and go to "Submit or View Requests" (I think), and you should be able to submit swap requests starting tomm around 12PM PHX time (I think).
Is swapping with other pilots possible? I don't see why they'd care about net reserves if you and I switched shifts. Nothing changes for them; they're right where they started.
Last edited by deltajuliet; 10-29-2014 at 07:33 AM.
#3718
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: CRJ
Posts: 273
Mesa
You swap reserve days on FLICA. Very few people know about that option. No need to call anyone. As stated above, it depends on the reserve grid.
-submit/view requests
-swap
-scroll down and select the day you no longer want to work, then push next
-above the 1st day of the month it provides a drop-down menu to select the day you prefer to work.
After that, I think all you do is push submit.
-submit/view requests
-swap
-scroll down and select the day you no longer want to work, then push next
-above the 1st day of the month it provides a drop-down menu to select the day you prefer to work.
After that, I think all you do is push submit.
#3719
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 94
Well I've learned something new. I haven't cared about reserve for too long.
#3720
Not sure how long you've been at Skywest, but it has always been a given that as soon as a unionized regional carrier achieves an improved contract that Jerry would ultimately give you guys matching improvements, or very close to it. This has always kept the masses happy over there, you are proof of that.
As far as ALPA being responsible for the state of the industry...well I guess it depends on your perspective. Not saying everything is "lolly pops & balloons" but things have improved dramatically over the last few years since emerging from the decade that started off with an economic decline that was accelerated by 9/11, SARS, oil going through the roof, and a recession. Pretty sure those things were out of ALPA's hands, although, allowing the outsourcing of jets back in the 90's certainly allowed the Camel's nose under the tent.
The 50 seaters are quickly becoming obsolete and ALPA has contracts at both DAL and UAL, that although allows for 70-76 seat jets/props to be outsourced (your welcome BTW), replaces the 50 seaters at about a 2.5:1 ratio. In the next 3 years both DAL and UAL will park about 400 outsourced aircraft with no replacement. Combine that with the fact that the pilot hiring pool is getting drained at an alarming rate (we haven't even hit peak retirements at UAL) and you have the makings for even more of that outsourced flying coming back "in-house" in some form. Could be a flow through, could be provisioning, who knows. What I do know is that the UALMEC is not all that interested in a flow through, or provisioning agreement with a non-ALPA carrier.
So blame/hate/whatever ALPA all you want, but I'll continue helping my brothers & sisters at MAG.
As far as ALPA being responsible for the state of the industry...well I guess it depends on your perspective. Not saying everything is "lolly pops & balloons" but things have improved dramatically over the last few years since emerging from the decade that started off with an economic decline that was accelerated by 9/11, SARS, oil going through the roof, and a recession. Pretty sure those things were out of ALPA's hands, although, allowing the outsourcing of jets back in the 90's certainly allowed the Camel's nose under the tent.
The 50 seaters are quickly becoming obsolete and ALPA has contracts at both DAL and UAL, that although allows for 70-76 seat jets/props to be outsourced (your welcome BTW), replaces the 50 seaters at about a 2.5:1 ratio. In the next 3 years both DAL and UAL will park about 400 outsourced aircraft with no replacement. Combine that with the fact that the pilot hiring pool is getting drained at an alarming rate (we haven't even hit peak retirements at UAL) and you have the makings for even more of that outsourced flying coming back "in-house" in some form. Could be a flow through, could be provisioning, who knows. What I do know is that the UALMEC is not all that interested in a flow through, or provisioning agreement with a non-ALPA carrier.
So blame/hate/whatever ALPA all you want, but I'll continue helping my brothers & sisters at MAG.
I also believe in a two way street where unionized carriers can point to the good parts of our contract in their negotiations and say "see what these pilots have? And they don't even have union representation!"
I also believe that if the above changed we would not hesitate to get representation. I, personally, would prefer a group with more self interest than ALPA who also represents many major carriers.
The fact remains, 24/48, that in spite of differing opinions, we are all on the same side. We are all fighting for this industry to get better (yes even non unionized SKW pilots) and we all want to help each other reach our goal, whether that be a major or other. Sure there are bad apples that are selfish out there (and they will get the karma they richly deserve).
I, personally, turned down a fast upgrade at Mesa, PSA, Compass, and interviews with several other carriers to come to SKW because I felt, despite the lengthy upgrade and possible stagnation, their work rules were top of the industry. I don't feel that's "scab like" behaviour-in fact I felt I was doing my part to accept only the best that the industry has to offer, though I will not pretend to say our first year pay is anything close to "decent." :P
Just my 2 cents. Cheers brother!
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